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Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: brokeplex on July 01, 2008, 11:21:25 pm ---and they would have been released as quickly as an "ACLU" lawyer could arrive to claim that they are victims. As it is, they won't threaten anyone again. And that is the point, if the authorities and the legal system can't protect our homes, our families, our lives, then we must do so. The chaos that is engulfing many of the cities, simply can't continue, eventually people take charge of their own destinies, they don't just cower waiting for the cops to come by and maybe fix the problem temporarily, the problem eventually gets fixed by outraged people, like Mr Horn.

Bravo Mr. Horn! I hope that the prosecutor who attempted to prosecute Mr Horn is fired!

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This is called vigilantism, and it's a prescription that will only make the situation worse, not fix it.

The answer is to fix the problems with the legal and law enforcement systems, not to turn every yahoo on the block into a gunslinger.


--- Quote from: brokeplex on July 01, 2008, 11:54:33 pm ---According to Horn, and this was borne out during grand jury testimony, during their carting away of the stolen merchandise, the perps were crossing over Horn's fence  and stepped onto Horn's property in order to get back to their getaway van, Horn shouted at them they saw him and charged him, he shot at them and missed, the perps then ran from him and he shot them dead thru their backs.
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There's the situation in a nutshell. He shot at them and missed, they ran--and then he shot them dead through their backs as they were running away from him.

This is outrageous. It has nothing to do with a citizen's right to protect his life, his family, and his property. Horn should have stopped shooting when they turned and ran. He should not have shot again, and getting carried away by the situation is no excuse.

He should have been indicted for manslaughter. Let him be acquited at trial by a jury of his peers, if they agree that the situation in Pasadena, Texas, is so bad that his actions were warranted--that's fine, I have no problem with that, that's the American way.

But for society to tacitly approve his actions by not even calling him to give an account of himself, after he killed two people, is outrageous.

Artiste:
Isn't   vigilantism    needed at times to defend yourself ?

As self-defence ?

Artiste:
They were two burglars ! Why two, one was enough !! ??

They would have murdered the decent honest citizens !

Are burglars honest ?

Artiste:
Why give in to burglars and murderers ?

Burglars steal not only your lifetime of savings, but also your life in many ways, and they remain alive while you are dead !

Why should Sal Mineo be dead, and his murderer who was stealing him be alive to-day and free ?

Sal can not talk nor do movies as he pleases now being dead, but that burglar bastard does what he wants still to-day in society since he is out of prison !

I can not talk nor see Sal anymore, but his murderer can talk and see and do what he wants !! Isn't that unfair ?

brokeplex:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on July 02, 2008, 09:08:20 am ---This is called vigilantism

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I believe what Mr. Horn did is called exercising his rights to protect himself and his property under current TX law. If you do not approve of the Castle Doctrine, then work to prevent its consideration or passage within your own home state, however here in TX the law is popular and probably will stand any further challenges.

And I would add that if law enforcement, border control, and the legal system in general were working as originally intended, then there would be no need for citizens like Mr. Horn to shoot those who are plaguing his neighborhood, and then use the doctrine as justification.

And if you wish to fight against "vigilantism", perhaps you might want to start with the vigilante drug dealers and their foot soldiers in our major cities dispensing their own swift justice against their business competitors. Those actions are usually called "drive by's"

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