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Lynne:
I agree that this completely engages my *squick* factor...The very idea of entrusting a young woman's purity (!) to the father to me reminds me of the days of chastity belts and compelled marriages and chattel. It's very sad because I don't think the basic idea - a father protecting his daughter/child from the world and from growing up too fast - is a bad one, but the language it comes wrapped in and the social movement espoused makes me cringe.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: wdj on September 17, 2008, 06:56:58 pm --- :laugh: I just like the name Purity Balls. :laugh:
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Seems like it would make a good drag name, doesn't it?
Brown Eyes:
Well, it's not only sexist and involves ridiculous gender based double standards, it's also completely homophobic (this may seem too obvious to even bring up).
But, this assumes that the all the girls will grow up with the desire to date/ marry men. And, obviously the whole gay marriage issue throws a wrench into the "wait until marriage" idea for gay girls. (Again this seems too obvious to even bring up).
I can imagine scenarios like the "purity ball" culture probably force lots of teenage lesbian girls deep into some kind of closet where they end up going along with conventions and behaviors that have nothing to do with their own desires or personality (and only have anything to do with parental expectations).
And, what if a straight girl grows up and wants to remain independent? Why force anyone into marriage? Things like this make it seem like an artificial institution forced on kids by their parents (society, etc.), at least with in "purity ball" society.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: injest on September 17, 2008, 07:26:04 pm ---whore, pig, trained seal; what difference does it make? sexism is sexism....no matter who says it. and I have found as I said there is plenty of it in all parties and religions. (Hatred of women seems to be the only thing the world can agree on)
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I'm glad to know I made a real impression on somebody. ;D
Lynne:
--- Quote from: atz75 on September 17, 2008, 10:47:33 pm ---Well, it's not only sexist and involves ridiculous gender based double standards, it's also completely homophobic (this may seem too obvious to even bring up).
But, this assumes that the all the girls will grow up with the desire to date/ marry men. And, obviously the whole gay marriage issue throws a wrench into the "wait until marriage" idea for gay girls. (Again this seems too obvious to even bring up).
I can imagine scenarios like the "purity ball" culture probably force lots of teenage lesbian girls deep into some kind of closet where they end up going along with conventions and behaviors that have nothing to do with their own desires or personality (and only have anything to do with parental expectations).
And, what if a straight girl grows up and wants to remain independent? Why force anyone into marriage? Things like this make it seem like an artificial institution forced on kids by their parents (society, etc.), at least with in "purity ball" society.
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Preaching to the choir, darlin' :-*. There's no question in my mind that this sort of mindset is damaging to all girls and young women and probably especially so for young lesbians.
I highlighted the text in your post above that IMO defines marriage at any rate.
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