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My sexual orientation and my positions on gay rights
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 22, 2008, 11:40:50 pm ---Difficulties have already been had.
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give me details, on how "full faith and credit" would not apply if say the Cali Supremes ruling stands after Nov 4th?
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 23, 2008, 12:03:52 am ---
And you have yet to establish a need to for the union of gays to be called marriage of civil unions provide the exact same rights and benefits.
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You may have a point that a well drawn up civil union contract can give the benefits of marriage (taxwise, benfitwise, etc)
But there is another intangible benefit - a statement of equality. In the long run this is the most important change brought by same sex marriage. The statement of equality moves the society as a whole towards an equality of treatment more than anything else can. And I am not thinking so much of myself, or even Dusty, I am thinking of the newest generations of gays, they need that statement of equality that I never was given. On this particular forum, we have been drawn here because of the effect that the movie and the short story BBM had on us, the story shows the tragedy of the effects of homophobia and denial on the lives of two men and their family's. The statement of equality that marriage brings takes us much further down the road towards the goal of the ending of the occurrence of real life stories of men and women like Ennis and Jack. For that reason alone, I am delighted to live in times when same sex marriage will become a reality in the near future.
serious crayons:
Hey brokeplex, well put. It's nice to be on the same side of an argument with you for a change! ;)
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: seriouscrayons on September 23, 2008, 10:55:08 pm ---Hey brokeplex, well put. It's nice to be on the same side of an argument with you for a change! ;)
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treasure the moment, I'll meet you over in Jess's virtual "cooling off" bar she has set up. I think she mixed up a pitcher of martinis just for me.
Brown Eyes:
Yep, I agree too, well said brokeplex. :)
And, I keep coming back to the question... if civil unions and marriage are meant to be exactly the same, as letxa has suggested in numerous posts, why would there be a need for two words or two systems for identical things? And, I think it's exactly what brokeplex says here... that the word marriage implies much more in terms of placing all relationships (straight and gay) on an equal level in terms of societal acceptance and recognition (and respect). There's clearly something very threatening about the word "marriage" (the word in and of itself) being extended to gay people from the traditionalist perspective, as we've seen articulated throughout this thread.
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