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My sexual orientation and my positions on gay rights
Marge_Innavera:
One other comment about California:
The legal system is not a patchwork of state legal structures. Not only are all of them subject to the Federal Constitution, but they all have similar principles of legal practice including precedents. The statements of the Supremes I quoted above aren't like posts in a blog; they are a matter of legal record and precedents can be quite powerful.
Moreover, the US Constitution is based on every citizen having equal standing under the law, and as marriage is a legal contract it covers that. And since we are a constitutional republic and not a pure democracy, states are required to give full faith and credit to legal contracts executed in other states.
letxa2000:
--- Quote from: DavidInIndy on September 23, 2008, 01:10:11 am ---What do you mean by "we"? Who is "we"? Who is "society"? The last time I checked I was a member of society too.
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Yes, you are.
--- Quote ---By the way I'm a proud gay man. ;)
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Good for you. Doesn't bother me.
--- Quote ---And we're being "arrogant" simply because we're asking to be recognized and treated equally? That's rich. :(
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No, I'm already saying I'm happy to extend you the same rights with civil unions. But it is arrogant to assume that society will change its definition of marriage for you. Rights is one thing. Redefining words for your convenience and so you feel better about yourselves is something different.
Marge_Innavera:
Lexta, I just checked your profile and it says you registered only yesterday. How did you find this forum, and how did you get interested in it?
letxa2000:
--- Quote from: wdj on September 23, 2008, 10:04:31 am ---You keep saying you have to defend some hypothetical person who might oppose it at our expense.
For me the question is why do you oppose it?
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Because I do not think it's unreasonable that marriage be the union of a man and a woman. I'm traditional. I also see no need for society to change the definition of a word so that some subset of the society can feel better about themselves. Feel good politically correct garbage is just that.
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: letxa2000 on September 23, 2008, 10:54:39 am ---No, I'm already saying I'm happy to extend you the same rights with civil unions.
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Equal treatment under the law isn't something that anyone graciously decides to "extend." It's one of the foundations of the US Constitution.
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