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Jacks ride to see Ennis with the Sheep.
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: jpwagoneer1964 on June 11, 2006, 10:29:37 am ---We already know Jack was already spic and span.
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LOL!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I love that line! Hilarious.
Anyway, seriously, I really like your interpretation jpwagoneer1964. It seems like a really nice way to think of the whole situation. Yes, they probably did ride down together... maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought of their hilltop conversation as happening late in the day. I love that Jack just lounges around in the tent and waits for Ennis. The fact that he's half undressed seems to indicate that he's pretty confident about what's about to happen. Maybe there were some nice moments at dinner that encouraged him.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: atz75 on June 11, 2006, 09:40:26 pm ---LOL!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I love that line! Hilarious.
Anyway, seriously, I really like your interpretation jpwagoneer1964. It seems like a really nice way to think of the whole situation. Yes, they probably did ride down together... maybe I'm wrong, but I've always thought of their hilltop conversation as happening late in the day. I love that Jack just lounges around in the tent and waits for Ennis. The fact that he's half undressed seems to indicate that he's pretty confident about what's about to happen. Maybe there were some nice moments at dinner that encouraged him.
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I agree with late in the day as well . It would have taken Jack a while to wash the clothes, especially wait for them to dry whether by sunlight or fire and other chores around the camp. First time I saw this I missed that this didn't happen at camp.("you know I ain't...").
Ennis does acknowlege Jack that morning"Yep...come on"(to the horses)after he turns away the same as when they trade places and Jack says "you wont get much sleep up there".
welliwont:
--- Quote from: atz75 on June 10, 2006, 09:50:21 pm ---By the way, I'm increasingly loving the abrupt cut from the "I ain't no queer... me neither" conversation to the second tent scene. It's like Lee is immediately undercutting those statements or is immediately exposing them as a form of posturing.
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Yeah, but in their minds, or at least in Ennis' mind, they ain't queer. Doesn't Ennis hang on to that illusion all the way 'til the end, 'til the fight scene by the lake? Isn't that why he blows a gasket, when he gets a hint that Jack may be doin' it with other guys and therefore Jack must be queer? And if Jack is queer ergo Ennis is too, and that is the reason Ennis goes ballistic?
Hmmm, I think this discussion belongs on another thread... carry on!
Brown Eyes:
Well, what I meant is that their actions and their words are in pretty clear contradiction. Or, that Lee is trying to show us the level of denial going on.
And wow, jpwagoneer1964 I've never really heard and/or thought of Ennis acknowledging Jack as he gets on the horse the morning after the first tent scene. I mean he looks at Jack, but I always assumed that all he's doing is spurring his horse on. But, it's an interesting idea.
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