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When Alma is looking at Jack's second postcard, she looks really really cross eyed!! Is that part of NLP?

JCinNYC2006:
Hey all,

Sorry Jenny, it wasn't something that I learned about in school or elsewhere.  It sounded interesting so I Googled it, there's a lot of info on the web about it.  Apparently it's a bit controversial because it has its roots in New Age philosophy, so there's been some challenges as to whether it's very scientific or not.

When I first saw the thread, I thought it might have to do with this other form of therapy called Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) that involves different therapy approaches and eye movement in a way that almost sounds like hypnosis.  A former supervisor of mine who's a therapist was a practitioner and found it to be very useful with trauma survivors.  So you don't find out about people through their eyes, but the eyes are part of the treatment.

The idea of how eye movement corresponds to mood state is interesting.  I think there is something that describes that but I can't think of what it is.  If anything comes to mind I'll let you know.

Juan

newyearsday:

--- Quote from: opinionista on June 09, 2006, 12:52:06 pm ---This is interesting but remember that in this case it may not be accurate because Alma is not real, it's Michelle acting. I met someone a long time ago who told me something about NLP (i think it was NLP) but I didn't understand it. But it's interesting though.

UPDATE

I just remembered that it was one of the topics in one of my class at school. It didn't ring a bell before because I knew the term in Spanish. In fact I have a few books about it. I'll look them up later.

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Hi Opinionista (sorry it's been so long that I don't remember your first name!)

I thought about this too, but I think it's still possible that it works, b/c these actors are embodying their characters, doing movements and things that may not be "of" the actors' normal reperatoire of behavior. I like to think that when they are in character they are doing things mentally and physically that should be considered part of that character and not the actor playing him or her.

Other thoughts on this?

opinionista:

--- Quote from: newyearsday on June 09, 2006, 01:56:24 pm ---Hi Opinionista (sorry it's been so long that I don't remember your first name!)

I thought about this too, but I think it's still possible that it works, b/c these actors are embodying their characters, doing movements and things that may not be "of" the actors' normal reperatoire of behavior. I like to think that when they are in character they are doing things mentally and physically that should be considered part of that character and not the actor playing him or her.

Other thoughts on this?
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Hey Jenny,

My name's Natali. Don't pay much attention to me. I really don't know much about NLP and much less about acting! It was just a thought. You could be right, it's possible that actors embody the characters they play, especially the ones that are good at it.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Ellemeno on June 09, 2006, 11:24:16 am --- I have thought about this too, with respect to Ennis.  There are two times I've notice that he turns his head very much to the right, and looks off into the distance, clearly thinking of Jack - once with Timmy laying asphalt, and the other when he is talking to Alma Jr. about her upcoming wedding.  Can anyone think of more examples of this kind of thing?

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I've never heard the term NLP before, though I have heard of the different kinds of learning and also the idea that people look to the left for one kind of thought and to the right for another (can't remember any more specifics). I really think there's something to it (I say as I look off to the left).

But I have definitely noticed what Clarissa and Jenny mentioned about Ennis -- he looks off to the side when thinking about Jack, usually to the right, but to the left in the phone booth. The common denominator seems less about which direction than the fact that he's looking outside, toward nature, into the distance. But another one I put in this category (that deviates from that rule) is when he's sitting on the bed with Alma. Just when she says "you don't want it to be so lonely, do you?" and the wind howls outside, he looks slightly to the right and freezes for a moment with a sad expression, as if thinking, "No, I sure as hell wish it weren't."

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