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ednbarby:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 19, 2006, 02:56:37 pm ---No problem, Barb -- you can make that by 5 p.m., easy. Go for it! The weather's great up here.
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 ;D

I love BannerHill.  I'm still laughing at "Maybe Ennis is Jacksexual."

People kill me who unequivocally decide that Jack is gay, but Ennis is not.  Sheee-it.  If anything, Jack is the more bi-sexual of the two - he does say that "it" is "normal and all" with Lureen, after all.  ;)

And ddmaul really did say it the best I've heard it - "being gay (or straight or bi- or asexual) is not what you do, it's who you are."  Good grief, some people.

It's so lovely to read even now about first-time viewers' reactions.  And it helps me to feel not nearly so freakish about my weekly (and sometimes bi-weekly) viewings when others talk about daily (and sometimes bi-daily) ones.

Thanks so much for drawing our attention to these, Eric.  I'd long since stopped going over there to see what's new - once burned, and all that.

serious crayons:
Besides, I don't know why anyone who loves the movie would want to think that Ennis is straight. I find that reading much less romantic.

I can't put my finger on all the reasons, but I think one is that, in that case, Ennis would struggle with far less inner conflict and turmoil. What makes the movie most powerful for me is that struggle, the idea that his love for Jack is so great it makes him face the part of himself that he tried to deny and repress for 19 years (or 39, depending on how you look at it).

ednbarby:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 19, 2006, 03:18:40 pm ---Besides, I don't know why anyone who loves the movie would want to think that Ennis is straight. I find that reading much less romantic.

I can't put my finger on all the reasons, but I think one is that, in that case, Ennis would struggle with far less inner conflict and turmoil. What makes the movie most powerful for me is that struggle, the idea that his love for Jack is so great it makes him face the part of himself that he tried to deny and repress for 19 years (or 39, depending on how you look at it).

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Exactly.  Not to mention that his readily apparent self-loathing doesn't make nearly as much sense (or any, really) when you paint him as a homophobic *straight* guy.

newyearsday:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on June 19, 2006, 03:08:55 pm --- ;D

I love BannerHill.  I'm still laughing at "Maybe Ennis is Jacksexual."
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Me too! I miss him.


--- Quote ---  If anything, Jack is the more bi-sexual of the two - he does say that "it" is "normal and all" with Lureen, after all.  ;)
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good point--and you didn't have to say much to get it across!



--- Quote ---Thanks so much for drawing our attention to these, Eric.  I'd long since stopped going over there to see what's new - once burned, and all that.

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Nice one, Barb. I haven't been there in a while either, but these posts are making me thirsty for more a that kind a talk again! ('These pretzels...are making me THIRSTY!' Anyone? Anyone?)

*sigh*

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on June 19, 2006, 03:32:13 pm ---Exactly.  Not to mention that his readily apparent self-loathing doesn't make nearly as much sense (or any, really) when you paint him as a homophobic *straight* guy.

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Right! And the whole Earl thing loses a lot of its oomph, too. Instead of Ennis growing up with this hideous threat hanging over his head, it's more like, "Hmmm ...  better not. I remember my Dad saying that's a bad idea."

PS Oh, and I forgot to mention this before, Barb, but I kind of suspect that Jack and Lureen aren't QUITE normal and all.

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