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Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 21, 2006, 01:41:44 pm ---Timmy isn't just a step down, he's the whole staircase down -- he's intended to be so ludicrously unattractive he's not even fun to work with, let alone share a tent with.

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LOL!!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Does anyone else find it hilarious that, in addition to everything else, that man is named "Timmy" anyway?  How do we know he's named Timmy?  Or is this a BetterMost  joke?  I'm ashamed to admit I've never watched the BBM credits all the way through or very carefully.


--- Quote from: latjoreme on June 21, 2006, 07:39:12 pm ---I was too busy disliking Jimbo to notice whether his body was hunky or not. But I think he's supposed to look somewhat like Ennis from across a bar (white hat, light-colored shirt) and not at alll like Ennis up close. I don't think he's supposed to be hot. His appearance helps suggest that Jack would be "settling" -- and in fact, didn't even get the opportunity to settle (illustrating the frustrations of being gay and single in his millieu and helping explain why he went for Lureen)!
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Very excellent points.  Jimbo is just freaky looking to me... yes he is a bit too shiny and his hat is too white.  I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to be gay and single in Jack's environment... I'm glad the Jimbo scene is there to illustrate this issue.  And, I think it's true that both Jimbo and Randall are meant to be "Ennis-substitutes"... and rather disappointing substitutes.  Isn't this what we think Jack means when he says "I miss you so much I can hardly stand it." ?  As viewers we can read between Jack's lines here to hear him complaining that Randall isn't very satisfying to him (and that he certainly hasn't stopped loving Ennis even though he's now been seeing Randall for quite a long time... I know the question of how long is a bit of a matter of debate).  Jack has explored Ennis-alternatives and Ennis-substitutes and none are any good (Mexico is the worst of all because it's humiliating... the Jimbo-type rejections are also probably pretty humiliating)... and he's dealing with the frustration of the separations from Ennis on top of all of this.  I think all of these disappointments lead to Jack's stressed/ washed-out appearance/ demeanor by the end of the film.

MaineWriter:

--- Quote from: moremojo on June 21, 2006, 05:34:42 pm ---(listen to me, rhapsodizing like this over FICTIONAL characters!),

Scott

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Please, never apologize or even question rhapsodizing over fictional characters...isn't this what we have all been doing for months? For me, since Dec 27th to be exact...

L

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: atz75 on June 21, 2006, 08:06:28 pm ---LOL!!   :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Does anyone else find it hilarious that, in addition to everything else, that man is named "Timmy" anyway?  How do we know he's named Timmy?  Or is this a BetterMost  joke?  I'm ashamed to admit I've never watched the BBM credits all the way through or very carefully.

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Check the credits in the film or in Story to Screenplay. The character is named Timmy. And I'm not jokin'.  :laugh:

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on June 21, 2006, 09:11:24 pm ---Check the credits in the film or in Story to Screenplay. The character is named Timmy. And I'm not jokin'.  :laugh:

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Very timely advice Jeff!  I'm excitedly awaiting my copy of that book from Amazon any day now.
Yeehaw!

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: atz75 on June 21, 2006, 10:10:09 pm ---Very timely advice Jeff!  I'm excitedly awaiting my copy of that book from Amazon any day now.
Yeehaw!

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You mean you don't have a copy yet? I'm shocked! :o :o :o No Brokie home should be without it. I guarantee you will find it invaluable, even where you know it departs from what we see on the screen (ref. my oft-repeated comment that my favorite Ennis line, "Jack fuckin' Twist," uttered on the apartment landing as he looks down at Jack in the parking lot, is not in the published screenplay).

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