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Jacks Bitch'n
dly64:
--- Quote from: littlewing1957 on June 24, 2006, 12:06:46 am ---Jack had a tendency to bitch, IMO because he was a dreamer. He never wanted to settle, always imagined something better. A good example of this is when Ennis lost their food on Brokeback due to being startled by a bear, and Jack refused to settle for beans. Ennis was content to eat only beans, which shows us how in life he was more of a "that'll do" person. Jack wanted more for himself and Ennis.
But you're right, Jack never bitched about driving long miles to see Ennis because he was able to be with the man he loved, which was his joy. Jack, ever the dreamer, probably thought that Ennis would someday come around, and that was a goal worth driving 14 or so hours for. No need to bitch when working toward a dream. Hope this makes sense.
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By the way!! Hi, Littlewing! It is so good to "see" you on this site.
Jack wasn't bitchy about driving the 14 hours to see Ennis strictly because he thought that Ennis had come to his senses and had decided to spend a life with him. IMO, it was after that point that Jack knew that the life he had hoped to live (with Ennis) would most likely not happen. The pain is palpable.
Interestingly, Jack is much more restrained when it comes to Lureen's dad (that is, until all that anger has built up and he tells him to "sit down you old son-of-a-bitch" ). He is also not that bitchy with Lureen. Maybe it is because with Ennis, he could express how he really felt. With his domestic life, he didn't want to expend too much emotional energy. (i.e. he was not as emotionally invested with Lureen et.al. versus Ennis).
Luvlylittlewing:
Diane, As my mother says, "we're chopping in tall cotton now! ;D We are among friends, scholars, thinkers, and I'm glad to be here!
I love what you said about Jack being sort of restrained when it came to Lureen and her dad. Why waste energy on people to whom he is not really emotionally attached? I never thought about it this way! Very insightful, Diane!
Rayn:
--- Quote from: dly64 on June 23, 2006, 08:44:45 pm ---Jack would have given up everything if Ennis would have said the word. The tragedy is that Ennis could not even admit that his one-in-a-lifetime love was Jack ... until Jack was dead.
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I agree! And the quote you give us, dly64 , is beautiful, one of the best parts of the movie and story. Yeah, poor Ennis never could understand Jack completely and all he was until he was gone.
I tell you what, if I met a guy like Jack, not so much like Jack looked, though Jack was devilishly good lookin', but the kinda guy that feels and loves like Jack, I would snap him up in a heartbeat... if his heart beat was for me!
LOL ;)
Rayn
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: dly64 on June 24, 2006, 08:21:13 pm ---Interestingly, Jack is much more restrained when it comes to Lureen's dad (that is, until all that anger has built up and he tells him to "sit down you old son-of-a-bitch" ). He is also not that bitchy with Lureen. Maybe it is because with Ennis, he could express how he really felt. With his domestic life, he didn't want to expend too much emotional energy. (i.e. he was not as emotionally invested with Lureen et.al. versus Ennis).
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A good friend and fellow Brokie has said she loves Jack best when he's bitchin' to Ennis. And there's a lot to love 'cause he does that often. :)
Apparently, someone at youtube loves him then, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unj5uFrdj-4&search=brokeback%20mountain
Gotta love the musical choice.
And I think that's an excellent point, too, Diane - why expend the energy bitching to someone whose opinion doesn't really matter?
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on June 26, 2006, 03:07:01 pm ---A good friend and fellow Brokie has said she loves Jack best when he's bitchin' to Ennis. And there's a lot to love 'cause he does that often. :)
Apparently, someone at youtube loves him then, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unj5uFrdj-4&search=brokeback%20mountain
Gotta love the musical choice.
And I think that's an excellent point, too, Diane - why expend the energy bitching to someone whose opinion doesn't really matter?
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Thanks for the youtube link, Barb! I haven't seen it before. It's funny and cute.
Yes, I like Jack's bitching, too. As long as I don't have to deal with it on an everyday basis. I wouldn't have the nerve to deal with this in everyday life.
But I tell you what - I am very much like Jack regarding the bitching. I tend to complain, bitch and nag about every little frustration - and I'm really lucky, because my husband not only can handle it, but really loves this trait of mine. It amuses him, he teases me about it and mostly he can bring me to the point I have to laugh about myself and/or the respective situation.
Jack bitches in such a cute way: goddamn pup tent smells like cat piss or worse (love that senentce) - I complain too much, teacher don't like me - f*ck Aguirre (ok this one is not cute, but funny) - up with the sheep all day, I get down hungry as hell and all I find is beans - and on and on :)
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