Author Topic: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll  (Read 3145363 times)

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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7150 on: November 20, 2006, 09:43:11 pm »
I've heard of the Ennis as a hit man one, but haven't had any desire to try it - just too AU for me.  But, jack as a truck stop whore?  Golden showers?  OMG!  Ewwww.  Anyone know the names of those fics so I can avoid running into them by accident?

Some of the things that go on in this fandom just boggle my mind.   :o

I'm a big fan of AU!AU (the hit man one is "Zero at the Bone," which I am writing; Jack is a surgeon in it).  The "truck stop whore" fic is "The Wolf and the Thunderbird" by Kumari, and it's actually very good.  As with everything else, summarizing it as "Jack is a truck stop whore" is oversimplified and does the fic no justice.  It's not my absolutely favorite AU!AU, but Kumari is one of our best writers.

The more AU!AU I read, the more I get the sense of Jack and Ennis as universal archetypes, reborn into different times and circumstances, reimagined as different men meeting in different situations, but still seeing what they are to each other.  It's like they exist at all times and all places, and their incarnations on Brokeback fromt he canon are just one of their existences.

Back on topic!  Only one chapter today!  WAAAAHHH!!!
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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7151 on: November 20, 2006, 09:54:29 pm »




OMG, that's the cutest little thing I've ever seen!
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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7152 on: November 20, 2006, 11:15:13 pm »
Ahhh..........

big sigh.

It is so nice to be back in the loop again.  You guys have entertained me immensely this evening with the new verbage, and pictures of foo-foo dogs.  (I have two of them!)

Seriously though, no sex for a week for Ennis?  Someone has to come up with some sort of alternative??  Ellery has to take a business trip?  Thus he's not tempted.  What will we do?  (Maybe we will get to read about Dupree?)

Well, it's back to work for me.

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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7153 on: November 20, 2006, 11:48:58 pm »
Ahhh..........

I've missed you guys!

We've definitely missed ya Kell!  ;)


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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7154 on: November 20, 2006, 11:55:08 pm »
Someone call Webster's dictionary, will ya?  :P


to Leslie: the reader in question brings all of his/her begging and pleading and sometimes even bribery, to  bear, to increase the local "schmoop" factor in a given chapter or plot element to the desired level.

to Souxi:  the reader in question takes leslie-ing to a whole other level with a fair amount of weeping, wailing, howling, .. practically anything to get what they want.  Souxi-ers have been known to be downright relentless and they usually get what they want.

to June:  to squee.



Here is another possibility derived from the most recent developments in the LS:

to fistulate:  To undergo a period of enforced sexual abstinence, of at least one week's duration, while at the same time getting married.
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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7155 on: November 21, 2006, 12:08:46 am »
Here is another possibility derived from the most recent developments in the LS:

to fistulate:  To undergo a period of enforced sexual abstinence, of at least one week's duration, while at the same time getting married.


hahaha Richard! 

Fistulation - jeez, sounds porn-ish!  :laugh:


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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7156 on: November 21, 2006, 12:11:27 am »
Ok..so ..So far we have: 

to Leslie: the reader in question brings all of his/her begging and pleading and sometimes even bribery, to  bear, to increase the local "schmoop" factor in a given chapter or plot element to the desired level.

to Souxi:  the reader in question takes leslie-ing to a whole other level with a fair amount of weeping, wailing, howling, .. practically anything to get what he/she wants.  Souxi-ers have been known to be downright relentless and they usually get what they want.

to June:  to squee.

to fistulate:  To undergo a period of enforced sexual abstinence, of at least one week's duration, while at the same time getting married.



LOL..
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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7157 on: November 21, 2006, 01:10:25 am »
I'm a big fan of AU!AU (the hit man one is "Zero at the Bone," which I am writing; Jack is a surgeon in it).  The "truck stop whore" fic is "The Wolf and the Thunderbird" by Kumari, and it's actually very good.  As with everything else, summarizing it as "Jack is a truck stop whore" is oversimplified and does the fic no justice.  It's not my absolutely favorite AU!AU, but Kumari is one of our best writers.

The more AU!AU I read, the more I get the sense of Jack and Ennis as universal archetypes, reborn into different times and circumstances, reimagined as different men meeting in different situations, but still seeing what they are to each other.  It's like they exist at all times and all places, and their incarnations on Brokeback fromt he canon are just one of their existences.

Back on topic!  Only one chapter today!  WAAAAHHH!!!

I see your point and agree about Jack and Ennis as archetypes. It's just that far more latitude has been given to the kind of experimentation and expansion on the story that you describe than has ever been accorded to LS.

Jack and Ennis exist as archetypes in multiple environments as a pair. But BBM is more often viewed in the less rarefied context of ongoing daily life in which Ennis is left alone. So as well as tapping into our psyches in a symbolic way with Jack, at another level he is also a flesh and blood being who we relate to in more ordinary terms of human existence which involves loss and loneliness, dealing with change, taking risks, the process of recovery and personal development.

Fans can be very flip and sophisticated about golden showers and whatever else in the name of artistic license when Jack and Ennis are paired. But let's face it, when Ennis engages in sexual experimentation with a new partner in life it is amazing how all that sophisticated offhandedness disappears to be replaced by schoolmarm primness and tut tutting disapproval!

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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7158 on: November 21, 2006, 01:28:45 am »
What the hell is schmoop?
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Re: Taking Chances, by E. L. Van Hine and L.H. Nicoll
« Reply #7159 on: November 21, 2006, 02:20:59 am »
Here is another possibility derived from the most recent developments in the LS:

to fistulate:  To undergo a period of enforced sexual abstinence, of at least one week's duration, while at the same time getting married.


you know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but most older horseman, esp, western cattle/horsemen or teamsters know about fistula---in the past some working horses would get fistulas of the withers from ill fitting equipment, and they are very hard to get cleaned up and healed.   Ennis may not, as there are not very many draft type situations any more, and the equipment horsemen use has improved so much and, since a lot of the chores got moved to tractors,  but it is still something that can and does happen occasionally.   I have only seen one case ever, but have seen some awful pictures in older 1900s vet books.    Just sort of a FYI. LOL