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Since Ennis was so closeted, why did he out himself to the Twists?
MaineWriter:
--- Quote from: JakeTwist on June 28, 2006, 06:17:19 pm ---
.... what I was saying is that based on what Mr. Twist chose to disclose to Ennis, I think Mr. Twist also knew Jack was queer, and Ennis was queer.
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Perhaps the lesson in that is that people think they can hide their sexuality, but they really can't. Someone who is "in closet" is only in there to him or herself, not to those around them.
opinionista:
--- Quote from: Midnight24 on June 28, 2006, 06:20:56 pm ---I think the Ang Lee was trying to show that the dad did know what was going on. He got on my nerves so bad, couldn't have been more rude. But I guess it's typical for back then when being gay wasn't exactly "looked upon." But the mom was so sweet I could just tell that even if she did know she would have accepted Jake anyways. I think Ennis might have known that they knew even though to me it didn't seem like he really expressed that in any way.
Sounds like a nice show you guys are puling off :laugh: I'll have to see it :D
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Actually, it wasn't Ang Lee's idea but Proulx's. Ennis visit to Jack's parents is in the short story.
As for the original posting, I think Ennis didn't know Jack's parents knew about them. That was probably the least he expected to find or hear there. Ennis was surprised when Jack's dad tells he knew who he was.
Ennis went there to offer his condolences and to take Jack's ashes to Brokeback thinking maybe they didn't know where it was, since Lureen didn't. I personally think Ennis wanted to see something about Jack, as a personal tribute or something. I have the impression that he sort of felt the need to be close to Jack, to feel the love and the pain, and the only thing he could do about it was to visit his parents.
Jeff Wrangler:
On a very mundane, unromantic level, Lightning Flat is a long way from Riverton. Ennis might have expected never to see Jack's folks again after that visit.
Not that I think Ennis ever stopped to make that consideration.
Even had Ennis not loved Jack, the widow of the best friend he ever had more or less asked him to make that trip, and Ennis is the kind of man who would do that.
David:
Actually... Lureen suggested that he contact Jacks folks about getting the ashes and fulfilling Jacks wishes.
Ennis wasn't really outing himself. Many people will go out of their way when a close friend or loved one dies. Even taking the shirts cannot be called a "gay" thing to do.
Taking a momento from a deceased loved one is not uncommon.
Henry Ford (the car man) was very close to his two best friends. Thomas Edison and Harvey Firestone. When Edison was dying, Ford went to visit him on his death bed. He took with him a large clear glass test tube. He had Thomas Edison breath into it and then he capped it off. This tube with Edisons last breath in it is on display today at Henry Fords huge Museum complex in Dearborn Michigan! Now that is really wanting a momento from a best friend! I saw this when I visited the Museum called "Greefield Village". He has the chair from the theater that President Lincoln was assassinated in too. Henry Ford idolized President Lincoln. And yes, the Lincoln car was named after him.
Midnight24:
--- Quote from: opinionista on June 28, 2006, 06:46:23 pm ---Actually, it wasn't Ang Lee's idea but Proulx's. Ennis visit to Jack's parents is in the short story.
As for the original posting, I think Ennis didn't know Jack's parents knew about them. That was probably the least he expected to find or hear there. Ennis was surprised when Jack's dad tells he knew who he was.
Ennis went there to offer his condolences and to take Jack's ashes to Brokeback thinking maybe they didn't know where it was, since Lureen didn't. I personally think Ennis wanted to see something about Jack, as a personal tribute or something. I have the impression that he sort of felt the need to be close to Jack, to feel the love and the pain, and the only thing he could do about it was to visit his parents.
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Yeah, I know it was in the short story I guess I just forgot about that. Sorry XD ;D
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