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What Scene Could have been left out
David:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on July 05, 2006, 03:59:10 pm ---**Scratches head**
I didn't vote, because I think all these scenes are necessary, or at least relevant, to the plot & story & character arc.
If I had to point to one scene I really think should be removed, it'd be the "pissant /used to ride bulls" scene. I still can't see what that one is supposed to bring to the telling of the tale at all.
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Ah! a subtle but important scene. This just reinforces that Jack always tries hard but never gets any respect. Even his wife at this point doesn't defend him after hearing that comment. She could have said something like : "Who? Jack? oh he has won several prizes, don't let his low key demeanor fool ya". She couldn't tell the man :"Watch yer mouth, that's my husband and he has won contests". This guy could be a big shot regular customer of hers. And you don't run off a guy who buys $100,000 combines.
But as I said, it was to show that Jack was unappreciated in so many ways....
Poor Jack....<sniff sniff> :'(
moremojo:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on July 05, 2006, 03:59:10 pm ---**Scratches head**
I didn't vote, because I think all these scenes are necessary, or at least relevant, to the plot & story & character arc.
If I had to point to one scene I really think should be removed, it'd be the "pissant /used to ride bulls" scene. I still can't see what that one is supposed to bring to the telling of the tale at all.
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I'd have to agree with your first statement, despite my earlier grudging vote for the Fireworks scene. As for the "used to ride bulls" scene, I think that was supposed to convey how little respect Jack earned from the folks in his community. For reasons that are unfathomable to me, Jack, in spite of his tender, nurturing nature, seems to inspire love in no one save Ennis, Lureen, and Mrs. Twist.
(David just beat me to the punch, but I'm a gonna submit my post anyways). ;D
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on July 01, 2006, 09:55:48 pm ---I'd ditch the fireworks scene. While very cinematic, we didn't need to know what year it was from that scene, since the rodeo scene immediately after also states the year. Both scenes were a mistake, considering that building the scene where Jack met Lureen - also not part of the story - messed up the timeline anyway and left open the possibility Lureen was pregnant at the time she met Jack.
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What Del said about the fireworks scene! (And the rest of the comment is pretty good, too!)
For me the Thanksgiving Dinner at the Twists was a close second--actually, it was kind of difficult to choose.
Some of you folks might get an argument over ditching the Cassie subplot. From posts elsewhere, I've developed a new respect for the importance of that subplot in Ennis's character development, especially its denoument--his reaction after she tells him, "Girls don't fall in love with fun."
moremojo:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2006, 04:26:05 pm ---What Del said about the fireworks scene! (And the rest of the comment is pretty good, too!)
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Is anyone else reminded in the fireworks scene of the film Billy Jack? I know I was, but I'm not sure if anyone else has cited that. I wonder if the scene may in part be an hommage to that earlier film. If so, its function in the narrative may well be secondary to the iconic/cinematic flavor that it evokes.
David:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2006, 04:26:05 pm ---For me the Thanksgiving Dinner at the Twists was a close second--actually, it was kind of difficult to choose.
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NOOOO! I love the Thanksgiving scene at the Twists!
This shows us how hard Jack had it at home. And the point where he finally stands up to L.D. also provided some comic relief to the audience in an otherwise tense drama.
But I love the way Jack looked frustrated and anxious even after he yells at L.D.
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