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"Jack, I swear..." What do you think Ennis meant by that?
Katness:
Thank you for the welcome. I had originally written my post above as separate sentences. But then decided it would be better as one.
But, I agree Atz75, about the ambiguity of BBM. I......wait let me start that sentence again with a quote from the film itself, Well "son of a whoreson bitch" I love films that don't beat you about the head with what they are trying to say. But instead make you use your brain cells, sometimes in overdrive. And me being someone who could easily stay up 24 hours straight. I have all the time in the world to use my brain cells.
Eh, if I ramble like that a few more times. Don't mind me. It is most likely because I have not slept for close to 24 hours and I'm in deep thinking mode. That and I'm also on the autism spectrum. So I could ramble on about BBM and connect several other interests of mine to BBM in rather convoluted ways and bore everyone to sleep.....or death. So like I said don't mind me. :P ;D
Rayn:
--- Quote from: Katness on January 09, 2008, 03:02:00 am ---Thank you for the welcome.
Eh, if I ramble like that a few more times. Don't mind me.
--- End quote ---
No prob Kat.... Ramble on, now's the time the time is now, sing your song..... ;)
Katness:
Cool. I only wanted to say that. Because sometimes I've been known to be told to shut up. Anyway. *steers the convo back to topic*
And that "Dozy embrace" WOWZERS. Speaking of camping I should start doing that again myself. Now that I don't live in the city anymore and more in the mountains. Head further out to Lithgow (which is sort of Northwest of where I live in the Blue Mountains) Where you have the possibility of coming face to face with a kangaroo. (looks out window in a daydream) No fun without someone by your side though. :(
Sandy:
I have had difficulty with the really wrong threads as I too didn't want to repeat what someone else had said-but if that's ok with everyone else, then I'm good to go!
I agree with Katness and Amanda-everytime I watch the film and read the book, I marvel at the fact I see something else or interpret a conversation differently. The sentence was never finished, and let's face it, it was a private thought!
Another thing, even if Ennis had thought about his feelings for Jack,I reckon he would have pushed them to one side rather than face them. For him to have his shrine, and speak aloud shows his progression. It took for Jack to die for him to get there and I wish he had reached that stage whilst Jack was still alive.
Rayn:
You know, Sandy, what you just wrote about Ennis and his shrine was actually the first time I have ever heard that observation and insight in the entire topic and I started it, so I've been with it from the git-go!
Yes, it took Jack's death to get Ennis to speak his feelings openly, even if to Jack's memory or spirit, but I'm sure Jack never doubted Ennis' feelings, and vice versa. In the end it was more about time..."Never enough time..."
Also, the greater part of Ennis' difficulty wasn't so much his inability to verbalize feelings, but rather it was his inability to get over this fears of being killed because they might be discovered. That is what kept Ennis bound up inside and out too. He lived in a prison of fear.
It's truly, and this has been said before, it's truly ironic that Ennis' fear of what happened to Rich and Earl kept Jack and Ennis' in hiding for years and then have the story end with the loss of Jack in an event that remains forever uncertain. Was Jack murdered or was it an accident is a whole different topic I have contributed to and we shouldn't really go into here, but the sad irony of the end is profound, but not without hope. For me, one of the great messages of the tale is, fear can kill a full expression of love and if not dealt with and overcome, it can end the exchange of love completely.
If new people like Katness or others come to this topic they needn't worry about repeating anything said before. We all have a new and unique way of writing posts, you know? I look at every topic as an endless conversation between new or different Brokie firends. The function of a topic isn't to reach some final destination or conclusion, but rather it's a process of continuing communication. People come in and out of it like they come in and out of a room. Some listen, some add to the conversation and each person gets something from themselves out of it.
:)
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