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Gay Rights In The United States?
wulfar360:
alhtought i voted "not in my lifetime" after reading af ew of theses posts i alittle more optomistic
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: mvansand76 on July 13, 2006, 06:27:22 am ---I sure hope they come to their senses sooner, though, but I am not sure they will, they should maybe take a look at the Netherlands...?
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Melissa, I absolutely agree with you. Many gay Americans do look to the Netherlands as a Promised Land and hope to see the tolerance evident in your country manifest itself here in the U.S. too. Unfortunately even though things are changing in many parts of the U.S., lack of change is the norm in others. Progress is slow. But any progress is better than no progress at all, I suppose.
I was listening to that stupid Bill O'Reilly again the other night (why do I even listen to him at all?) and he was trying to tie increased drug use and crime to legalized gay marriage. He pointed to the Netherlands as an example. Well, I am glad I did watch him that night. I sent him the nastiest, most evil email I have ever wrote in my life. How dare he say those things? How dare he attack gay marriage like that? And how dare he say those awful things about the Netherlands? But it shouldn't have surprised me. He says stupid things all the time.
But this is just another example of what we are up against in this country. I read something on IMDb the other day I found very disheartening. It said that gay rights will never be tolerated in this country until Christianity is totally devalued and Christian beliefs have been driven from the country. That makes me really sad. :'(
I have hope. Things are changing in some parts of the country. I hope more and more people continue to look towards the Netherlands, Canada and a handful of other countries for examples. Gay people are people too. It's a shame when some feel that I am less than human simply because of my sexual orientation. :(
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: wulfar360 on July 13, 2006, 01:32:18 pm ---alhtought i voted "not in my lifetime" after reading af ew of theses posts i alittle more optomistic
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Yes. We must always try to be optimistic.
And hope... and hope... and hope..... :)
Giancarlo:
Even with the fair share of bigots in this country, you must admit we have come a long way. Not as far as Spain has in the past thirty years, and speaking of Spain, what they have accomplished with equal rights is just plain remarkable. We would be treated like criminals and jailed in Spain thirty five years ago. Now Spain went from that policy to a pro-gay marriage stance. Anyways, back to the United States... there have been progress made in this country and we have to continue pushing our equal rights cause. People will try to block us, but we must never let them.
"he was trying to tie increased drug use and crime to legalized gay marriage. He pointed to the Netherlands as an example."
That man is sick in the head. In Spain, crime is low, and drug use is low... and we legalized gay marriage.
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: Giancarlo on July 14, 2006, 06:42:41 pm ---That man is sick in the head. In Spain, crime is low, and drug use is low... and we legalized gay marriage.
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Yes. We too have a huge drug problem in the United States, crime is very high in some areas of the country (much higher here than in the Netherlands), and Gay Marriage is not legal here.
Bill O'Reilly's argument was totally invalid. The man is an absolute idiot. >:(
But it's not the first time he's made a complete ass out of himself.
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