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nakymaton:
On the other hand, Jack is a sheep, and Jake says that sheep are stupid. (Or something like that. Ummm, I have only watched the extras once.)
(It was looking like it might be bad on the highway with the horse trailer, back before I went on vacation. So I left the horse trailer behind. Besides, it wouldn't fit well on an airplane. Oh, and it looks like you had a birthday while I was on net vacation, so happy belated birthday, Lee!)
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on July 24, 2006, 05:01:57 pm ---I'd been thinking about a "symbols that can be read more than one way" thread, but I think I'll just read this one and laugh.
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I'll do the same! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I had a similar idea, Mel. I've always thought it would be fun to have a thread where someone throws a thing out there -- red, water, sheep, whiskey -- and everybody else has to come up with as many symbolic meanings for it as possible. You'd supply a reason for your answer, and all answers would count as equally valid.
For example, for DANCING, answers could include "loneliness" (because Ennis and Jack feel lonely when they're dancing with Lureen and Cassie), "phony heterosexuality" (because their dancing partners -- Lureen, Cassie, LaShawn -- substitute for the men they are actually interested in) or plain old "sex" (because husbands never wanna dance with their wives, leaving LaShawn and Lureen to dance with themselves).
Front-Ranger:
What fun!! It's so great to have U back, Katherine! Okay, I'll throw something out that we haven't tackled yet (that I know of) . . . telephone.
David:
Ennis: "Jack are you a sheep?"
Jack: "Let me ask Lureen"
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on July 24, 2006, 07:01:44 pm ---Okay, I'll throw something out that we haven't tackled yet (that I know of) . . . telephone.
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Ok. I'll try. (You do realize that this post comes from the Random Interpretation Generator, aka the Mel-O-Tron, which was originally used to interpret "Sh**." Please keep the source in mind when reading this post. ;) )
Input data:
The Mel-O-Tron can only remember two appearances of a telephone in the movie, plus one oblique reference to a telephone:
1) In Aguirre's office, the telephone rings. Aguirre answers it and tells it: "No. No. Not on your f***in' life."
2) Ennis and Lureen talk on the telephone after Jack's death.
3) Oblique reference: Ennis received a call from his boss, telling him that all the heifers were calving at once.
*puts data into the Mel-O-Tron Random Interpretation Generator*
Output: The telephone represents Jack's Dreams.
Scene 1) Aguirre tells Jack's Dreams "Not on your f***in' life." This is clear foreshadowing that Jack's dream of living openly with Ennis will never come true during Jack's life.
Oblique reference: Ennis receives a telephone call telling him that baby cows are being born. This reference occurs during the first appearance of Monroe, who will eventually marry Alma after Ennis and Alma divorce. This symbolizes the potential for Ennis to have lived with Jack after Ennis's divorce; however, the telephone (Jack's Dreams) do not appear on the screen, implying that Jack's dreams just don't have a chance.
Scene 2) Ennis kisses the telephone (well, ok, he holds it to his lips) at the end of the conversation with Lureen. This is the first time we ever see Ennis with a telephone. Ennis embraces Jack's dream. Unfortunately, Jack is dead.
*the Mel-O-Tron accepts that other interpretations may be possible; however, ordering soup is completely out of the question*
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