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Anyone watch the ESPYs??
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: mvansand76 on July 24, 2006, 11:21:04 am ---Uhm.. I watched a brief interview with Lance Armstrong about this on youtube and in it he says that he cleared it with him and that he asked Jake if he was OK with it and Lance said that Jake said "Yes, I love, it, I love it..."
That makes you wonder, doesn't it?
I remember something that Jake said that impressed me in that Oprah episode about BBM, he said that even the small jokes (the ones like this or the name calling, the thing heterosexual men do when they call eachother homo or gay) are insulting, that it shows immaturity. I am only paraphrasing because I don't have the tape here. What I don't understand is why this (the joke at ESPY) is supposed to be funny?
I don't know...
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Yes, that's what I'm talking about when I say I'm disappointed - his apparent response to Lance's running it by him.
It's just such a shame that such jokes are even considered, let alone made, at such an event. Here you have about the most homophobic sub-culture there is in this country - professional male athletes. It's right up (or down?) there with white supremacists and, I dunno, cowboys and/or Republicans for being infamously so. And they trot out a joke like that. And then, like notBastet said, what was even more disturbing was Lance's following that with "I meant the rear of the theater - you people are sick" - as in sick is what you are if you even think about anal sex. Childish. Lame. Insulting beyond words. But that's Lance for ya. He is from Texas, after all. I bet he doesn't even drink coffee, the neocon. ;)
Seriously, it was in profoundly poor taste on a number of levels, the most egregious of those being that it has the potential to make gays in an already homophobic sub-culture want to run and hide all the more. Again, nice going, guys.
:'(
mvansand76:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on July 24, 2006, 11:35:39 am ---Yes, that's what I'm talking about when I say I'm disappointed - his apparent response to Lance's running it by him.
It's just such a shame that such jokes are even considered, let alone made, at such an event. Here you have about the most homophobic sub-culture there is in this country - professional male athletes. It's right up (or down?) there with white supremacists and, I dunno, cowboys and/or Republicans for being infamously so. And they trot out a joke like that. And then, like notBastet said, what was even more disturbing was Lance's following that with "I meant the rear of the theater - you people are sick" - as in sick is what you are if you even think about anal sex. Childish. Lame. Insulting beyond words. But that's Lance for ya. He is from Texas, after all. I bet he doesn't even drink coffee, the neocon. ;)
Seriously, it was in profoundly poor taste on a number of levels, the most egregious of those being that it has the potential to make gays in an already homophobic sub-culture want to run and hide all the more. Again, nice going, guys.
:'(
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You are so right, it's such a sad and awful way of dealing with things. I know there's humor and you should be able to joke about things, but this is in SUCH poor taste. And yes, especially in this setting. >:(
welliwont:
--- Quote from: mvansand76 on July 24, 2006, 11:21:04 am ---Uhm.. I watched a brief interview with Lance Armstrong about this on youtube and in it he says that he cleared it with him and that he asked Jake if he was OK with it and Lance said that Jake said "Yes, I love, it, I love it..."
That makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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Makes me wonder if Lance is feeding a line of BS there. I don't believe that Jake said "I love it, I love it." what a load of crap. Does that sound like Jake?
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: JakeTwist on July 24, 2006, 11:54:50 am ---Makes me wonder if Lance is feeding a line of BS there. I don't believe that Jake said "I love it, I love it." what a load of crap. Does that sound like Jake?
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Not like the Jake that exists in my perfect fantasy world (in which I'm also 25 again and we are exclusive lovers). That's why it came as such a surprise and disappointment to me. I can't believe Lance would bold-faced lie about what he said to Ryan Seacrest/the media, but I do agree with Elanorsam that it was very possibly taken out of context or there might have been more to his response than just that. Or maybe I just like to think that in my perfect fantasy world. In which, by the way, I have to run. I'm late for a nooner.
mvansand76:
--- Quote from: JakeTwist on July 24, 2006, 11:54:50 am ---Makes me wonder if Lance is feeding a line of BS there. I don't believe that Jake said "I love it, I love it." what a load of crap. Does that sound like Jake?
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I am not sure if I believe that he said that exactly either, it's just not a joke that you can be THAT enthusiastic about if you've just played a key character in one of the most important and influential films about homosexuality to have come out in years.
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