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Who has seen these controversial moments?
opinionista:
I'm a lip reader. On the reunion scene Ennis says c'mon or c'mere. He says something after kissing Jack. He also says I'm sorry on the TS-1, and Jack replies S'alright, s'alright.
However, he doesn't move his lips at all after he finds the shirts in the closet. I've seeing this scene over and over again, and he doesn't move his lips at all. There's no I love you. He's gets emotional, but doesn't say anything.
JT:
--- Quote from: dly64 on August 01, 2006, 07:46:19 pm ---I've heard/seen it all, except for the "Oh, Jack ..."
I have found that using headphones and watching the movie on either a large screen or watching the movie close up makes a huge difference.
I have always seen Jack holding Ennis' hand. I find it interesting that others haven't seen it. However, it was pointed out that in TS1, after Ennis bolts and Jack grabs Ennis and says, “C’mon” …. Jack takes Ennis’ hand and puts it back on his hard dick. You know … it happens. Had someone not pointed that out (to me), I wouldn’t have noticed it.
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That's a great idea! Something you can hear things in headphones that you can not hear in speakers. Maybe I'll try that next time. I'm also trying to read their lips but that's not always reliable because some words can be spoken with out hardly moving the lips.
jpwagoneer1964:
--- Quote from: opinionista on August 02, 2006, 06:31:51 am ---I'm a lip reader. On the reunion scene Ennis says c'mon or c'mere. He says something after kissing Jack. He also says I'm sorry on the TS-1, and Jack replies S'alright, s'alright.
However, he doesn't move his lips at all after he finds the shirts in the closet. I've seeing this scene over and over again, and he doesn't move his lips at all. There's no I love you. He's gets emotional, but doesn't say anything.
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The shirts. Ennis breathes in, exhales then "I love you", you can see his lips move although the shirts are covering 3/4 of his mouth.
serious crayons:
I just watched TS1 again (on YouTube!). I saw Jack seem to grab Ennis' hand offscreen, when they're sitting up, and put it somewhere also offscreen. I noticed Ennis settled down slightly at that point and stare more intently into Jack's eyes, as if he's getting it. So I changed my vote to include that.
I also heard, with the speakers pressed to my ears, Jack breathe some sounds that could possibly be "fuck me," or could also just be gasping. I'm not quite sure enough to add that to my vote.
I'm trying to be scrupulously empirical about this!
dly64:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 02, 2006, 12:47:39 pm ---I just watched TS1 again (on YouTube!). I saw Jack seem to grab Ennis' hand offscreen, when they're sitting up, and put it somewhere also offscreen. I noticed Ennis settled down slightly at that point and stare more intently into Jack's eyes, as if he's getting it. So I changed my vote to include that.
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Yep ... Amanda brought that one to my attention! ;)
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