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Interesting article about celebrity gay gossip. Discusses Jake Gyllenhaal.
silkncense:
Does anyone know at what age Ian McKellen came out as gay? I seem to recall it was not when he was a young actor. Also, was he ever a leading man type in films?
I also wonder, based on the number of people who refused to see Brokeback Mountain & the number of complaints received by the Academy about it even being nominated for Best picture, if it isn't realistic for gay actors to be wary of loosing parts &/or popularity if they come out.
If there was no bigotry in this country towards gays, there would be no worry professionally & there would also be gay marriages in every state.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: silkncense on August 04, 2006, 09:17:27 pm ---Does anyone know at what age Ian McKellen came out as gay? I seem to recall it was not when he was a young actor. Also, was he ever a leading man type in films?
I also wonder, based on the number of people who refused to see Brokeback Mountain & the number of complaints received by the Academy about it even nominated for Best picture, if it isn't realistic for gay actors to be wary of lossing parts &/or popularity if they come out.
If there were no bigotry in this country towards gays, there would be no worry professionally & there would also be gay marriages in every state.
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Amen to that. As always, LJ, you've hit the proverbial nail on the head. It irritated me how McKellan sat in judgment of Jake like that when in fact he didn't come out professionally until relatively late in his career - as if he's the epitome of the truly authentic openly gay actor and always has been. Please. And yes, considering all the horseshit we've all witnessed and they've had put up with on various levels since its release (and it ain't over), it's readily apparent that Hollywood is nowhere near accepting openly gay actors as completely equal players on the leading man field.
delalluvia:
Interesting article, thanks for posting. Yeah, I remember Ian McKellan's remarks. We discussed it at length on IMDb. I felt pretty much that Ian McKellan, lauded thespian elder and knight of the realm, should take it easy on those who are just starting out in their careers.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on August 04, 2006, 09:22:39 pm ---It irritated me how McKellan sat in judgment of Jake like that when in fact he didn't come out professionally until relatively late in his career - as if he's the epitome of the truly authentic openly gay actor and always has been.
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I remembered discussing this before, got curious, and did a search. Here's an earlier BetterMost thread:
http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=226.0
And here's a link to a (very brief) article about Ian McKellen's remarks:
http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/mckellen%20blasts%20gyllenhaal_30_03_2006
My opinion hasn't changed much since then. The details are too disjointed and out of context to be very trustworthy. Ian McKellen's remarks are abbreviated, Jake isn't quoted directly, etc. etc.
--- Quote from: nakymaton on August 04, 2006, 05:17:14 pm ---Yeah, but female roles tend to be de-sexed at a younger age than male roles do, anyway.
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To say the least.
--- Quote ---But I think the problem is homophobia rather than what straight women or straight men find attractive. ... I would like to call it by name, and not pretend like it's some kind of natural behavior.
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Sure. But I think that particular issue goes beyond what straight audiences do or don't find attractive. It's about what studio honchos THINK straight audiences will find attractive, or even what the star thinks that studio honchos think that audiences think ... And everyone could easily be wrong. They were in the case of BBM, hunh?
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: latjoreme on August 05, 2006, 01:16:05 am ---I think that particular issue goes beyond what straight audiences do or don't find attractive. It's about what studio honchos THINK straight audiences will find attractive, or even what the star thinks that studio honchos think that audiences think ... And everyone could easily be wrong. They were in the case of BBM, hunh?
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Very nicely put, Bud. I quite agree. I don't know what to think about the Ian/ Jake controversy. The fact that there was a controversy was disappointing to me... but I think you're right that what I know about the controversy is too mediated/ chopped-up/ third-hand, etc. I really like Ian Mckellen and I'm guessing that some of this situation is taken out of context by the media.
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