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Interesting article about celebrity gay gossip. Discusses Jake Gyllenhaal.

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silkncense:
It is a projected uncomfortablness, I think.  The actors (not just in this film) are doing a job & choose to act a part or not.  The media, with their relentless implying that Heath and Jake should have been uncomfortable, made the issue uncomfortable.

Mikaela:

--- Quote ---I don't know anything about Empire, though as a journalist I can say I rarely let subjects read profiles before they're published.
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I used to work a bit as a journalist in a local paper some years back, and the custom there was to let persons read through lengthy "portrait" articles of this kind. Not to approve them per se - but to be given the opportunity to comment on any controversies and correct any misunderstandings. That's where my assumption came from. But I sure didn't interview any moviestars. And I've no idea if that custom is still being followed. It may well have been abandoned by now. Ordinary news stories were not treated the same way, btw.



--- Quote ---Nobody's going to ask McKellen 15 times a day what it was like to kiss Helen Mirren.
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 ;D ;D ;D

(Poor Helen Mirren, why did Sir Ian have to drag her into this..... The smileys are *not* because of her. She's a wonderful actress.)


--- Quote ---I keep thinking think this TV interview I happened to see with Jake, right after he made "The Day After Tomorrow," in which he talked about filming the flood scenes. The water was deep and cold and dirty in the first place, and then the cast wasn't given many bathroom breaks, so pretty soon it also was filled with pee...
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 :o :o :o

Suddenly I'm reminded of that telephone call scene Jake has in DAT where he "nearly drowns". *Now*, at  long last, I finally find that scene scary! Yuck! DAT was the only Jake film I'd seen prior to BBM. Hadn't even seen Donnie Darko - I've made sure to remedy that. I've seen most of his films by now. (And whatever reason Jake had for being terrified at the BBM kissing scenes, *if* that is true in the first place, - it sure wasn't because he's a sometime lousy on-screen kisser. Quite the opposite.  :P  :P Well, I guess BBM proved that. )



--- Quote ---It is a projected uncomfortableness, I think.
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I think you're very right. The interviews I've seen or read with Heath and/or Jake about the kissing (and that would ALWAYS come up) very often ASSUMED they necessarily had to have been uncomfortable/terrified/dreading it/embarrassed at it etc.etc. The question was asked with that kind of assumption blatantly clear, more often than not. And there are the actors - obliged to be polite, obliged to promote the film and not to PO the interviewer - to some extent they go with the flow. Jake is much more suave than Heath in interview situations and that may not have served him too well in relation to those inescapable kissing questions. He may sometimes have responded a little too humorously or gone a little too far in seeming to buy into the assumptions made by the interviewer, IMO - especially when later read, repeated or quoted out of context.

The poor guys must have been so sick of that question - even at the Toronto film festival's press conference, back in the autumn of -05, that was the very first question asked.   ::)

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: silkncense on August 05, 2006, 01:39:10 pm ---It is a projected uncomfortablness, I think.  The actors (not just in this film) are doing a job & choose to act a part or not.  The media, with their relentless implying that Heath and Jake should have been uncomfortable, made the issue uncomfortable.
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Maybe, though it's hard to tell for sure. Jake and Heath grew up in the same culture their interviewers did, so they may not have been entirely free of some of same those prejudices. For all we know, they had to deal with the issue themselves. In any case, they obviously did an excellent of transcending it. And I would say that afterward, they showed a lot of grace under all that uncomfortable media pressure.


--- Quote from: Mikaela on August 05, 2006, 02:08:46 pm ---I used to work a bit as a journalist in a local paper some years back, and the custom there was to let persons read through lengthy "portrait" articles of this kind.

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Most of the papers I worked for had pretty harsh rules against that -- too harsh, in some case, I thought. With regular private citizens, I could empathize with them and so sometimes let them see the profiles. With more public figures, like business people or government officials, I had less sympathy; I figured dealing with the media is part of their jobs. But celebrities hold so much power because the media is so celebrity hungry, so perhaps they make that a condition of interviews.

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: silkncense on August 05, 2006, 01:39:10 pm ---It is a projected uncomfortablness, I think.  The actors (not just in this film) are doing a job & choose to act a part or not.  The media, with their relentless implying that Heath and Jake should have been uncomfortable, made the issue uncomfortable.

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I think this is more or less spot on.  I think the mainstream media had a lot to do with stressing the idea of being "uncomfortable" with certain aspects of BBM.  It's sort of pathetic really. 
 :-\

For what it's worth, I remember during a red carpet interview with Jake (it was actually for the Oscars...) whatever reporter it was brought up the same old stupid question about the kissing... and in a moment of loveliness Jake said he'd never be uncomfortable talking about those aspects of the movie or the content of the movie.  I do remember he said that he was sick to death of the questions though.  I think he also said something about the fact that by that time (Oscar time) he and Heath had some stock answers ready to go when these questions came up.  Although, his responses to these questions do seem to vary depending on his mood.  My guess though, is that in reality he's long, long over any issue of being uncomfortable with it.

ednbarby:
I'll take it a step further and say the media are pathetic.   :P

And LJ, your point about it being perfectly natural that a straight man and a straight woman filming a love scene might not be the least bit attracted to each other reminds me of a story.  When the imaginary love of my life Ralph Fiennes was on Inside the Actors Studio recently, a student asked him if it was in general difficult to film love scenes with all those people standing around watching.  He said *he* was reminded of a story.  (See what I mean?  ;))  The story was that David Niven once said that when he was about to film a love scene, he would say to his partner, "Forgive me if I get aroused.  And forgive me if I don't."

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