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Adios...I'm outta here..
Ray:
Surf, we have never communicated directly, but I have read your posts and thought. I have a habit when meeting someone, or overhearing a conversation, or witnessing an attitude, of likening that person to someone else I know. You have always reminded me of my brother. He is very outspoken and generates a great deal of heated debate. He suffers fools much less than 'gladly' and is quite intollerant when opinions don't align to his own. Similarly he spat "I'm outta here" to our family 12 years ago and has probably spoken a dozen words to any of us since that time. I miss him and I still talk to his answering machine on birthdays and when I want to let him know I'm still alive. I always admire his convictions, but I deplore his intollerance. I just wish he could allow people their own voice while he is allowed to speak his own. This group is a wonderful opportunity that I for one don't want to miss. I love being part of it, warts and all.
--- Quote ---Honestly, Kevin, you have pissed me off several times, but who in my family hasn't?
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--- Quote from: Chanterais on April 03, 2006, 04:32:38 pm --- I think it's really too bad that original and unconventional voices like yours have been shut down by some of the other posters.
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A truly unconventional voice cannot be shut down by anyone, they just chose to be silenced.
rtprod:
I may well find myself excommunicated from this board for saying this, but here goes.
Regardless of the need for Chez Tremblay to feel comfortable engaging in healthy debates (as Chanterais has pointed out), there needs to be a modicum of respect and consideration in the point/counterpoint threads. Rudeness, unnecessary sharpness or calling others' opinions wrong and foolish has no place here in this close (yet quickly expanding) group. Of course, often things get misconstrued because inflections do not translate across email as well as caps and exclamation points seem to.
We all love this film beyond comprehension, and no one person here is a final authority on anything---whether it is the "I'm sorry" or "it's all right" topic or any other. I'm not trying to sound confrontational at all, so this may be a good example of how feelings don't translate across typeface.
So everyone say exactly what is on your mind and let's feel free to disagree. But of course--but let's do it with consideration and for others. :)
It may sound trivial and pedestrian, but it's true.
Chanterais:
--- Quote from: rtprod on April 03, 2006, 04:52:55 pm ---So everyone say exactly what is on your mind and let's feel free to disagree. But of course--but let's do it with consideration and for others. :)
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I second the motion most heartily. Deftly put.
slayers_creek_oth:
--- Quote from: rtprod on April 03, 2006, 04:52:55 pm ---So everyone say exactly what is on your mind and let's feel free to disagree. But of course--but let's do it with consideration and for others. :)
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Agreed! ;D
newyearsday:
Well, it seems that conflict just breeds more conflict sometimes. It's a shame what is happening re: Surf leaving or wanting to leave, and I think it's largely fallout from the major stress of last week on our community.
One thing I have learned here and elsewhere is that the convenience, detachment, and speed of online communication sometimes results in people saying things non-chalantly that end up actually hurting other people's feelings, or causing defenses to go up. On the other hand, those same features can make it easier for people to connect, sometimes deeply, with people whom they would never meet otherwise. So there are pros and cons to it all. I think CT has been great because we've had a lot of the closeness and less of the conflict, whereas the Big Board at Imdb maybe had more conflict and less closeness.
I really hope we as a community can handle people here having strongly held opinions, and I hope we can have public disagreements and arguments--we wouldn't be a very strong community if we couldn't. But if any of us has a problem with anyone here that goes deeper than that or that has built up over time, I'd hope that they would approach that person via PM and speak from his or her best self to that person's best self, with all intentions of goodwill returning. Otherwise, defenses tend to go up, and people retreat to their corners, or else lash out.
In any case, one of the main things Brokeback taught me iss that we all deserve to be respected as human beings, even if we are different. I really hope Surf decides to come back, b/c if we can handle the trolls we oughta be able to handle each other. I love this community and value everyone's contributions. "We gotta stick this out...."
Jenny
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