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AP: Novelist Anne Rice says she's leaving Christianity
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: atz75 on August 06, 2010, 03:12:40 pm ---I don't even think there's anything wrong with being angry or expressing anger sometimes (especially in this case where the anger is directed at an intstitution or entity rather than an individual). As long as it isn't hurting someone else, I think well-directed anger can lead to productive change sometimes.
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well, I see a difference between having a right to be angry or justified in being angry on the one hand, and expressing that anger in an inappropriate context. I feel expressing her political objections to the practices of the RC church within the context of discussion her Xianity is inappropriate. If she is uncomfortable with the church, she should have the grace to simply leave and find a different path of salvation. It is anger that clouds our relationship with God and hides His plan from us, and because of her well-deserved high regard as a novelist (I too am a fan) her statements will adversely affect others.
I think that Rice needs to learn about the Xian concept of grace.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on August 06, 2010, 06:50:33 pm ---Ideally, following Christ is all about forgiving and forgetting offenses. Hence Bill's comment about anger.
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thank you, that is part of my definition of grace (within the Xian concept)
Monika:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on August 09, 2010, 10:38:29 am ---well, I see a difference between having a right to be angry or justified in being angry on the one hand, and expressing that anger in an inappropriate context. I feel expressing her political objections to the practices of the RC church within the context of discussion her Xianity is inappropriate. If she is uncomfortable with the church, she should have the grace to simply leave and find a different path of salvation. It is anger that clouds our relationship with God and hides His plan from us, and because of her well-deserved high regard as a novelist (I too am a fan) her statements will adversely affect others.
I think that Rice needs to learn about the Xian concept of grace.
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as a non-christian I really can´t get into any of the christian arguments, but as a human being I know it´s pretty healthy to be angry at times.
And if she wishes to express angriness towards an organisation (the Chatolic church) that is anti-gay, I think that is pretty healthy too.
I would not equate grace with shutting your mouth when you see something that is wrong.
And possibly it will affects others, and maybe that is what she wants to do.
It sounds as you know how to find the salvation you are looking for, and that is all good. But maybe other christians have found different paths.
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Buffymon on August 09, 2010, 10:47:00 am ---
as a non-christian I really can´t get into any of the christian arguments, but as a human being I know it´s pretty healthy to be angry at times.
And if she wishes to express angriness towards an organisation (the Chatolic church) that is anti-gay, I think that is pretty healthy too.
I would not equate grace with shutting your mouth when you see something that is wrong.
And possibly it will affects others, and maybe that is what she wants to do.
It sounds as you know how to find the salvation you are looking for, and that is all good. But maybe other christians have found different paths.
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I would never want anyone to remain silent, but it is inappropriate to express the type of political anger she is expressing within the context of the church. She simply needs to find another path for herself and pray for the church.
louisev:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on August 09, 2010, 10:26:07 am ---she sounds angry to me, I could be wrong, but that was my impression. and it seems that she herself is interjecting politics into religion in a way that the author of the commentary piece about her is objecting to in the Republican party. so I would add hypocritical to biased in regard to the author of the op ed piece.
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it wasn't Anne Rice who mixed politics with religion: it was the RC Church spending tens of millions, along with their Mormon allies, which funded the Proposition 8 campaign and have poured their tithings into anti-gay legislative action. She is merely condemning their actions.
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