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Ennis or Jack? Which one did you identify with more?
Becky:
I think the audience are supposed to identify with Ennis more, and I did but there is something about Jack that appeals to the viewer; be it that cheeky grin, the dreamer in him or those bitchy off-hand remarks. I identify with Ennis, but Jack appeals more to me as a character cause I think there is a little bit of Jack in me, and in every one. That little bit of them that never looses hope and is always dreaming of a better life for themselves and their loved ones.
TheStudDuck:
I'm definitely a Jack. No question about it. From the first time I saw the film, I knew I was a Jack.
It's this young-at-heart, excited romantic who just wants peace in his life... he just wants to live life his own way and he doesn't care what others think of it. He knows what he wants and he'll do just about anything to get it... except he won't push those that he loves towards something that they are not ready for.
He looks as if he's fragile, but he's actually very tough... he seems to have been through it all and more, despite his outward appearance.
He gives more than he takes... he's the one that will drive all the way to Wyoming to see someone and not require that they drive to Texas. He's the one that keeps giving and giving and giving and although he feels like he should be taking, he never does out of his fear that he'll lose out in the end.
He's a tender and gentle soul who simply wants to be held next to a campfire by the person he cares most about in the world and the greatest sadness he knows is hearing those words "gotta go" and then watching them ride away -- and to make matters worse, he experiences that sadness more than anyone else he knows in the world.
Oh, yeah. I'm definitely a Jack.
Kea:
Hey Stud Duck
..that was a beautiful description of Jack........
sending you a hug....
from one Jack to another....
Do you think will we ever hold the stars in our hands ...rather than just gaze at them in the sky?? I sure hope so.
hugs
Kea
j.U.d.E.:
--- Quote from: moremojo on April 06, 2006, 10:06:41 am ---I am more like Ennis in personality--somewhat reserved, a bit shy, and can tend to be a loner, having always felt comfortable being by myself (in fact, I crave solitude sometimes).
On the other hand, I identify with Jack a lot in how I love--gentle, tender, and devoted. Also, like Jack, I can't cook worth a darn (or so Jack claims of himself).
Scott M.
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I'm sharing this with you! All - the loner bit and the cooking bit! ;D
Though Jake can cook apparently, so maybe it will rub off on us.. ::)
~ j U d E
monimm18:
--- Quote from: Becky on April 05, 2006, 12:52:12 pm ---I think the audience are supposed to identify with Ennis more, and I did but there is something about Jack that appeals to the viewer; be it that cheeky grin, the dreamer in him or those bitchy off-hand remarks. I identify with Ennis, but Jack appeals more to me as a character cause I think there is a little bit of Jack in me, and in every one. That little bit of them that never looses hope and is always dreaming of a better life for themselves and their loved ones.
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Becky, I think you are totally right. This is why, when I asked whom people identifyed with and whom they empathised with, I insisted on making the distinction between the two. We can empathise with people we don't identify with, and many times we confuse the two. Whether people identified with Ennis or Jack, everybody felt deeply for Jack. I think Ang Lee did that on purpose. I think one of the best way to "sell" a story is by getting the public to fall for the characters - once that is achieved, wahtever those characters do, however flawed they are considered as human beings, the public would find it hard to judge and condemn them; instead, they focus on understanding and justifying them. Ang Lee has specified in several interviews that he wanted Jack's character to be "sexy" - I think, because he knows that sexyness is something that appeals to us subconsciously, regardless of sexual orientation and mentality. Hence, the reason why homophobes resented this film so much, IMO. Combine that sexyness with his nurturing, hopefulness and that "man child" qualities he has and he becomes the irresistible Jack we all fall in love with, I think.
LOL, I remember that scene from the "LOGO" special, where Jake is sitting in Ang's directorial chair and mocks him: "Eh, it's OK, not very sexy. Can we do it again?" I wonder how many times Ang Lee said those words during filming, tee-hee!
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