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"Somewhere in Time" 1980 film with parallels to BBM?
Marge_Innavera:
--- Quote from: Mandy21 on November 03, 2010, 02:27:27 pm ---Oh my goodness, Paul. That pic is so lovely. They just don't make women that exquisite anymore, do they? I'd only count Vivien Leigh among Jane's ranks. Oh, and my own mother, of course.
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And those 1912 fashions were just perfect for her!
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on November 05, 2010, 10:35:29 am ---And those 1912 fashions were just perfect for her!
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Sure enough! Though Jane Seymour could wear anything from any period and make it look better! :)
Lynne:
My copy comes from Netflix Friday.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Lynne on November 05, 2010, 01:07:47 pm ---My copy comes from Netflix Friday.
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You're in for a real treat. :)
Mandy21:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on November 05, 2010, 09:58:24 am ---Yes, he did, but what he knew was going on up there was sex, not love. This is a culture that clearly draws a distinction between the two--and as a gay man whose been out a long time, I can certainly vouch for the fact that among gay men, the two, sex and love, don't necessarily go together (I'm sure straights can vouch for this, too, but I speak only from the life that I know). As for the culture, remember the old rancher who told Annie Proulx that he always sent his sheepherders off in pairs so they could "poke" one another if they got lonely? These are not people who even recognize the possibility of love between two men--even Ennis has trouble with that, apparently.
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Interesting points, Jeff. I'm curious if other gay men on here would reiterate your distinctions? I was especially intrigued by your last sentence above -- "recognize the possibility of love". Which leads me to my next question, and I vaguely remember addressing this question before a few years ago on here somewhere. We believe that Jack had sex with the sheepherder he was with up on the mountain during the spring before he met Ennis. Are we to also believe that based on the story and the screenplay/film, that there's no remote possibility that Jack also could have loved THAT man, but just gave up quicker on HIM because it was potentially a first-time, flash-in-the-pan, you're-expected-to-be-this-way-with-your-raging-hormones-away-from-females kind of thing? What if he'd never met Ennis? (Eek, that possibility makes me sick to my stomach.) Anyway, what if Jack had gone back to the mountain and been faced with the other guy instead of Ennis? Could it THEN have finally become love through the passage of time, and the dedication it would have taken to return to the place of THEIR first meeting? Or would it have just been another spring filled with random sex?
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