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400th Anniversary of the KJV

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delalluvia:
Saw a special the other night where a religious scholar suggested that the reason the KJV bible is so much ingrained in our language is because during the Reformation, the tangilble objects of worship and artwork - statues, stained glass, crosses, etc., - disappeared and all that was left was the beauty of the language of the KJV bible later.  So people took pleasure in that.  FWIW 

Lynne:
It is interesting...I daresay that between the KJV and William Shakespeare, we get most of our idiomatic expressions.

The language of Brokeback Mountain is gradually replacing both, of course, sure enough.   :laugh:

David In Indy:
Wasn't King James gay? Or allegedly gay? Or at least bi? Or was that a different King James? Perhaps I should consult my good friend Google and ask him about it.

Anyway, if true, I wonder how many of these evangelicals who hate gay people so much realize their favorite bible is named after a gay king? :-\

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: David In Indy on January 03, 2011, 12:48:41 am ---Wasn't King James gay? Or allegedly gay? Or at least bi? Or was that a different King James? Perhaps I should consult my good friend Google and ask him about it.

Anyway, if true, I wonder how many of these evangelicals who hate gay people so much realize their favorite bible is named after a gay king? :-\

--- End quote ---

Court gossip and some writings certainly say so.  He had quite a few good looking favorites and was a faithful gentleman to his wife i.e. never kissed another woman or had mistresses it is said.  Course, they don't count the men he reportedly kissed.

Lynne:
Wikipedia says some scholars believe so:

"Throughout his life James had close relationships with male courtiers, which has caused debate among historians about their nature.[114] After his accession in England, his peaceful and scholarly attitude strikingly contrasted with the bellicose and flirtatious behaviour of Elizabeth,[114] as indicated by the contemporary epigram Rex fuit Elizabeth, nunc est regina Jacobus (Elizabeth was King, now James is Queen).[115] Some of James's biographers conclude that Esmé Stewart (later Duke of Lennox), Robert Carr (later Earl of Somerset), and George Villiers (later Duke of Buckingham) were his lovers.[116] Restoration of Apethorpe Hall, undertaken in 2004–2008, revealed a previously unknown passage linking the bedchambers of James and Villiers.[117] Others argue that the relationships were not sexual.[118] In Basilikon Doron James lists sodomy among crimes "ye are bound in conscience never to forgive", and James's wife Anne gave birth to seven live children, as well as suffering two stillbirths and at least three other miscarriages.[119]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_I_of_England

And this source certainly thinks so:

http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/history/king_james_gay.html

I doubt it was unusual, David - one in 7 - 10 throughout history, consistently.  But yes, it's nice to have one more weapon in the arsenal against the Intolerants.

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