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Do You Find The New "You Don't Need God" Billboards Offensive?
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Marina on March 10, 2011, 11:30:53 am ---I'm offended by the billboards, because I don't believe any side or anywhere in the middle, has the right to tell someone else what or how to believe.
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But is it offensive to tell the truth? Nothing about this billboard is false.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on March 10, 2011, 08:22:49 pm ---But is it offensive to tell the truth? Nothing about this billboard is false.
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For some people, it isn't the truth.
"You don't need God, to hope, to care ..."
I mean, you and I would say, of course you don't. But others feel that they do, so the statement is false for THEM. Is it a billboard's place to tell people what they need or don't need, vis-a-vis the Almighty?
I'm sure it's absolute scientific truth that a fetus' heartbeat can be detected at 12 weeks or whatever it is they say. Does that make those billboards perfectly fine? It may even be true that all babies are precious gifts or that Jesus loves me. Whatever. I don't necessarily need to see those reminders on the billboards I drive past, so I can see the point of the other side saying they don't either.
Religious billboards annoy me, and I don't think a tit-for-tat response in kind is necessarily the best approach. As an agnostic, I'd rather stay above proselytizing via roadside advertisement.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: crayonlicious on March 11, 2011, 01:44:20 am ---For some people, it isn't the truth.
"You don't need God, to hope, to care ..."
I mean, you and I would say, of course you don't. But others feel that they do, so the statement is false for THEM. Is it a billboard's place to tell people what they need or don't need, vis-a-vis the Almighty?
I'm sure it's absolute scientific truth that a fetus' heartbeat can be detected at 12 weeks or whatever it is they say. Does that make those billboards perfectly fine? It may even be true that all babies are precious gifts or that Jesus loves me. Whatever. I don't necessarily need to see those reminders on the billboards I drive past, so I can see the point of the other side saying they don't either.
Religious billboards annoy me, and I don't think a tit-for-tat response in kind is necessarily the best approach. As an agnostic, I'd rather stay above proselytizing via roadside advertisement.
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No, they say they can't care/love/whatever without god, but they most certainly do and they can see from other people around them that they can without a problem.
Basically, they're just saying, "I can't imagine life without ice cream." when it's just a preference, not a reality.
Marina:
--- Quote ---But is it offensive to tell the truth? Nothing about this billboard is false.
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I was going to say the same thing as Crayonlicious - it isn't the truth, for everyone. Some people need religion and spirituality in their lives to be happy, myself being one of them. If I thought mankind was all there was, I'd be very unhappy. Where I draw the line for any type of belief is when it's forced upon others. Some people do a lot of caring through their religious organizations as well.
This statement can no more be proven than the existence of a higher power, and is just about the same tactic used by fantatics of any religion. Every person is entitled to their own thoughts, beliefs and conclusions. If I were to see this driving down a highway in my car for however many miles, I'd feel a captive audience with another kind of unprovable dogma being forced upon me.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Marina on March 11, 2011, 06:31:48 pm ---I was going to say the same thing as Crayonlicious - it isn't the truth, for everyone. Some people need religion and spirituality in their lives to be happy, myself being one of them. If I thought mankind was all there was, I'd be very unhappy. Where I draw the line for any type of belief is when it's forced upon others. Some people do a lot of caring through their religious organizations as well.
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Hi Marina, just a quibble, but the billboard didn't mention happiness. It said, 'love, caring and hope'.
Can people do these things/have these things without belief in god? Of course. People do it every single day and they don't suddenly drop dead or want to kill themselves.
That's reality. That's the truth this billboard is saying and there's really no getting around it.
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