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Anyone been to Italy?
delalluvia:
Why are bank wire transfers so expensive?!?! It was $45 for each! >:(
Thank the gods I only have two wire transfers to do for my hotels/B&Bs/Monastery stays.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on November 02, 2011, 07:35:21 pm ---Yeah, I've read those numbers before, but the numbers are already skewed if they're comparing airplanes to cars. They'd have to compare 80+ cars to one airplane to get comparable numbers. e.g. 68,000 killed in traffic fatalities...were they all in one car? A bus?
But again, let's talk survivability. How many cars simply crashed and people walked away, versus how many planes crashed and people walked away? That's what I'm interested in.
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The statistics I quoted referred to deaths, not accidents. Humans killed, not vehicles crashed.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: scary crayons on November 02, 2011, 07:41:21 pm ---The statistics I quoted referred to deaths, not accidents. Humans killed, not vehicles crashed.
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I know, but that's not what I'm interested in comparing.
Odds are based on cars on the roads. How many are those per year? Compared to how many airplanes and people in the air during the same time? It's not really comparable.
That's what I mean by the numbers being skewed to begin with.
delalluvia:
Ah, the joys of reservation making...Alitalia charged me twice for the same flight. Now I have to dispute one of the charges. Watch them apologize, say they'll withdraw one and then withdraw both and leave me without a flight. >:(
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on November 03, 2011, 07:20:50 pm ---I know, but that's not what I'm interested in comparing.
Odds are based on cars on the roads. How many are those per year? Compared to how many airplanes and people in the air during the same time? It's not really comparable.
That's what I mean by the numbers being skewed to begin with.
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Well, you can be interested in comparing whatever you like. But the number of cars on the road at any given time, or people in a plane or planes in the sky -- all that stuff is an irrelevant distraction.
Simple deaths per mile traveled (per person, not per vehicle) is the relevant statistic if you're going to talk about the safety of car travel vs. air travel. And then, to make it even more relevant, subtract the air deaths that take place in small private planes if you're not going to be flying in one because, as I said, they're responsible for the vast majority of deaths.
Those numbers aren't skewed. They're very clear cut. They're the ones you use to figure out, say, if you're traveling from Dallas to Newark by plane vs. by car, which trip is more likely to kill you.
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