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serious crayons:
--- Quote from: louisev on September 20, 2011, 10:16:04 am ---As I stated in my original post in the Feminism thread, my issues with feminism are not human rights issues, they are philosophical issues based upon a view of society that I believe is distorted. I am not arguing that sexism does not exist, however, I do not accept the view of philosophical feminists who state that there is a conscious war against women by men to keep them subjugated, and that all men oppress all women. I just don't, and I have seen and known enough men to support my view.
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I know there are a few feminists who think that way, but the majority do not. I sure don't, and I don't know any feminists who does.
Society as a whole, not men exclusively, and certainly not "all men," is to blame for the subjugation and oppression of women. Though that subjugation has, historically, tended to privilege men, it has also -- as you pointed out in your post on the Feminism thread -- been taught and reinforced by women. (Though unlike you, I don't consider women "at the leading edge of the opposition" to equality. If I had to blame one sex or another, I would not hesitate to place more of the blame on men.)
As for feminism, the Merriam-Webster definition is simple, to the point and, in my view, accurate.
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Tony-Ranger on September 20, 2011, 12:09:32 pm ---I still remember one comforting thing he said. In all species, the females know instinctively how to deal with overpopulation. They will cease going into estrus, spontaneously abort or in some cases kill and even eat the young. This concept was also discussed in the story Watership Down. When the rabbit warren became overpopulated, fetuses were reabsorbed into the females' bodies before they developed and were born.
This preventive measure was observed in all different kinds of species, Hawken said. But in homo sapiens?? Do females still hold the key to avoiding disastrous overpopulation??
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Sometimes I have wondered whether it's not just a coincidence that certain cultural changes whose byproducts include a lowered birthrate -- women entering the work force in record numbers, the development of more effective birth control, the gay rights movement, women marrying at older ages and putting off having children until they're older -- came at about the same time that people began worrying about overpopulation. Nature works in mysterious ways!
milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on September 20, 2011, 02:07:34 pm ---Sometimes I have wondered whether it's not just a coincidence that certain cultural changes whose byproducts include a lowered birthrate -- women entering the work force in record numbers, the development of more effective birth control, the gay rights movement, women marrying at older ages and putting off having children until they're older -- came at about the same time that people began worrying about overpopulation. Nature works in mysterious ways!
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Some people think that homosexuality might be a natural population control element. But I don't see how the gay rights movement would contribute to population control. Especially since gays have been making their own babies lately.
milomorris:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on September 20, 2011, 01:58:24 pm ---As for feminism, the Merriam-Webster definition is simple, to the point and, in my view, accurate.
1 : the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes
2 : organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests
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Interesting. Social equality is part of the definition, but legal equality is not.
louisev:
I think that's what 'political' means in this context, Milo.
Katherine, if that were organized feminism's definition of feminism, maybe I would be one. But I have read feminist theorists recently and it goes much, much MUCH deeper than that.
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