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serious crayons:

--- Quote from: milomorris on September 19, 2011, 02:12:55 pm ---Parenthood is now the equivalent of servitude? I guess if we're all gonna be "free" the species will have to die out.
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Although I realize that Front-Ranger can bloody well look after herself, I'm going to barge in and suggest that it seems you've missed her point. She wasn't talking about parenthood in general. As her quote plainly says, she's referring to a hypothetical woman who has half a dozen kids before she's 30. And yes, providing unpaid caregiving for that many kids rather than being able to support oneself through paid employment can resemble servitude, for reasons I (or she) can outline further if they don't seem obvious.

The birthrate required to keep the population stable, I was just reading yesterday, is 2.1 kids per woman. So it's quite possible for a woman to have fewer than six children without the species dying out.

 

Front-Ranger:
Thanks, serious, and let me also add some more info from my daughter's experience. Her husband doesn't allow disposable diapers so she does laundry every day, including many cloth diapers. Child care is the bailiwik of the wife, so she goes everywhere carrying a child and a heavy diaper bag, even when she and her husband are going to a ball game (and during the game, the child sits on the wife's lap, with the diaper bag at her feet). Maintaining the home is the bailiwik of the wife, so on weekends my daughter cooks and cleans while her husband plays video games on his computer. The husband doesn't allow conveniences, so my daughter doesn't even have a microwave oven!! And now he's talking about selling her car, because she, being a housewife, "doesn't need a car."

And she only has one child so far!! When asked how many children they expect to have, the husband answers (without allowing his wife to have a say) "As many as God will give us."   :-\

louisev:
did somebody mention me?

 :o

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: louisev on September 19, 2011, 03:12:48 pm ---did somebody mention me?

 :o

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Yep.  ;D ;)

In a nice way, of course.  :D


milomorris:

--- Quote from: Tony-Ranger on September 19, 2011, 02:47:57 pm ---Thanks, serious, and let me also add some more info from my daughter's experience. Her husband doesn't allow disposable diapers so she does laundry every day, including many cloth diapers. Child care is the bailiwik of the wife, so she goes everywhere carrying a child and a heavy diaper bag, even when she and her husband are going to a ball game (and during the game, the child sits on the wife's lap, with the diaper bag at her feet). Maintaining the home is the bailiwik of the wife, so on weekends my daughter cooks and cleans while her husband plays video games on his computer. The husband doesn't allow conveniences, so my daughter doesn't even have a microwave oven!! And now he's talking about selling her car, because she, being a housewife, "doesn't need a car."

And she only has one child so far!! When asked how many children they expect to have, the husband answers (without allowing his wife to have a say) "As many as God will give us."   :-\

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Its such an individualized thing. Couple A might be able to have lots of children, and still live the life they want to live. Couple B's lifestyle might only have room for 1 or 2 children.

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