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Looks like Our Boy Zach ("I'm a Gay Man") Quinto's Margin Call is a Winner!Yay!
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: Ghost Cowboy on October 20, 2011, 02:47:23 am ---My thought exactly. Especially nice to see Simon Baker on the big screen.
As an old Trekkie, I was very, VERY sceptic about a new Star Trek movie coming out. But I loved it - and especially Zach´s performance as Spock. He nailed it.
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I agree with you! He was awesome as the young Mr. Spock! The entire time I watched Star Trek I thought Zach looked familiar but I couldn't place him. I rushed home to find out whatever I could about that cutie.
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on October 20, 2011, 07:40:14 pm ---I don't believe Zach Quinto is A-list yet. I'd peg him as a starlet an up and comer. And honestly, while I'm extremely glad he came out because of the suicide, it will really make little difference to mainstream America. They already suspect most actors - those who aren't Stallone, Eastwood etc. - and believe them to be all Hollywood liberals anyway.
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Some suspect even them!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on October 20, 2011, 07:40:14 pm ---I don't believe Zach Quinto is A-list yet. I'd peg him as a starlet an up and comer. And honestly, while I'm extremely glad he came out because of the suicide, it will really make little difference to mainstream America. They already suspect most actors - those who aren't Stallone, Eastwood etc. - and believe them to be all Hollywood liberals anyway.
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You're right, he's not. A-list stars are those who you'd mention when talking about a movie to someone else. Like you'd say, "You know 'Oceans 11' -- that one with George Clooney and Brad Pitt and Matt Damon" (all A-list, easily identifiable by the majority of Americans). You wouldn't say, "You know the new 'Star Trek,' starring Zach Quinto and Chris Pines" (names I would bet don't automatically summon a face for the majority of Americans).
But Zach Quinto doesn't seem quite B-list, either. To me, B list celebrities are those who haven't held one of the top starring roles a big-budget major studio movie, playing a beloved TV character, and didn't also star in a successful TV series. Maybe he's A-minus list.
But my point about him coming out wasn't to say this action would cause sweeping changes in mainstream America. I meant that (assuming he remains successful and -- unlike Rupert Everett -- doesn't ultimately blame his coming out for torpedoing his career) other young gay stars will look at him and think that what he did was cool, which it totally is, and feel more comfortable coming out themselves, and eventually mainstream America will come to think it's not a big deal.
Tell you what, though, your vision of mainstream America who think all movie stars except for the likes of Sly and Clint are gay -- that doesn't match my encounters with mainstream America. I know you live in Texas and I live in Minnesota, but even objectively speaking I wouldn't automatically consider "mainstream America" to be synonymous with conservatives who view "Hollywood liberals" with suspicion. Liberals are part of mainstream America, too.
Second, in my experience mainstream America (meaning, middle-class, middle-income, non-famous people with sort of regular jobs and middle-of-the-road politics) is far LESS aware of who might or might not be gay in Hollywood than you or I would be. At a family gathering with the ex-in-laws, I once brought up the idea that Tom Cruise is often rumored to be gay. Everybody else there -- all about as mainstream America as you can get -- just looked baffled. Not only did they not consider him gay, they'd never even heard that he MIGHT be. I bet if you ask my ex-in-laws to name five gay Hollywood celebrities, they'd get through Ellen DeGeneres, maybe one or two others, and then have to reach for Liberace.
Luvlylittlewing:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on October 20, 2011, 08:00:40 pm ---You're right, he's not. A-list stars are those who you'd mention when talking about a movie to someone else. Like you'd say, "You know 'Oceans 11' -- that one with George Clooney and Brad Pitt and Matt Damon" (all A-list, easily identifiable by the majority of Americans). You wouldn't say, "You know the new 'Star Trek,' starring Zach Quinto and Chris Pines" (names I would bet don't automatically summon a face for the majority of Americans).
But Zach Quinto doesn't seem quite B-list, either. To me, B list celebrities are those who haven't held one of the top starring roles a big-budget major studio movie, playing a beloved TV character, and didn't also star in a successful TV series. Maybe he's A-minus list.
But my point about him coming out wasn't to say this action would cause sweeping changes in mainstream America. I meant that (assuming he remains successful and -- unlike Rupert Everett -- doesn't ultimately blame his coming out for torpedoing his career) other young gay stars will look at him and think that what he did was cool, which it totally is, and feel more comfortable coming out themselves, and eventually mainstream America will come to think it's not a big deal.
Tell you what, though, your vision of mainstream America who think all movie stars except for the likes of Sly and Clint are gay -- that doesn't match my encounters with mainstream America. I know you live in Texas and I live in Minnesota, but even objectively speaking I wouldn't automatically consider "mainstream America" to be synonymous with conservatives who view "Hollywood liberals" with suspicion. Liberals are part of mainstream America, too.
Second, in my experience mainstream America (meaning, middle-class, middle-income, non-famous people with sort of regular jobs and middle-of-the-road politics) is far LESS aware of who might or might not be gay in Hollywood than you or I would be. At a family gathering with the ex-in-laws, I once brought up the idea that Tom Cruise is often rumored to be gay. Everybody else there -- all about as mainstream America as you can get -- just looked baffled. Not only did they not consider him gay, they'd never even heard that he MIGHT be. I bet if you ask my ex-in-laws to name five gay Hollywood celebrities, they'd get through Ellen DeGeneres, maybe one or two others, and then have to reach for Liberace.
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Those of us who live in California, especially those in So Cal (I've lived there for many years) have sort of an "in" when it comes to who is gay and who is not in show business, and are very cynical. My brother has met many actors and actresses, and in his opinion, all male actors are gay, no exception. I've met my share of show biz people, and I work with some folks who have SAG cards. But I don't speculate.
Aloysius J. Gleek:
--- Quote from: Luvlylittlewing on October 20, 2011, 08:07:07 pm ---Those of us who live in California, especially those in So Cal (I've lived there for many years) have sort of an "in" when it comes to who is gay and who is not in show business, and are very cynical.
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That might be a little bit like Italian cynicism about the inner workings of the Vatican, because they are so close--"one pope dies, they (or we) make another."
;D
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