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London Spy: Ben Whishaw, dreamy lover/genius Ed Holcroft and sage Jim Broadbent
Aloysius J. Gleek:
--- Quote from: CellarDweller on February 21, 2016, 07:43:05 pm ---
Oh my!!!
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Yes! :o :laugh:
Aloysius J. Gleek:
Time for more
LONDONSPYFANART
Someone has rendered my
conceit as Poor Danny/Orpheus
and his beloved Alex/Eurydice
http://wilberia.tistory.com/m/post/17
Oops! More Korean--and I cannot bother a very, very busy friend who has to
then ask his colleague for a translation--yet.
(Looks like another schizoid conversation with two of Ben Whishaw's characters,
fictional character Danny Holt of London Spy and real historical poet John Keats of Bright Star)
Late addition:
http://wilberia.tistory.com/m/post/12
http://wilberia.tistory.com/m/post?categoryId=662185
Mikaela:
Oh, thank you so much for this long and thoughtful reply! :)
--- Quote from: Aloysius J. Gleek on February 21, 2016, 10:21:18 pm ---Glacial? What can I say, I like glacial. And yes, the love story. Oh my god Yes. The plot was less so--at first. It will take me quite some time to explain to anyone else that--well, what I first thought was over-the-top/jumping the shark is now, to me--completely believable. Those holes no longer look like holes.
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Maybe glacial was the wrong word. Challenging might be better. The slow pace and the riddles within riddles require something of the viewers. You don't get to follow this story lightly while your mind is partly on other things... At any rate, I came to appreciate the pace, even as it was frustrating because I am. Conditioned by so many shows and stories to wanting All The Answers Now!!
--- Quote ---Perhaps it was Whishaw, Broadbent and Rampling's sheer talent, or Holcroft's beautiful face, but--now I *believe* the crazy plot (within the bounds of the story). In a world in which Alexander Litvinenko, Gareth Williams, Edward Snowden are real people, not characters in some crazy spy thriller--why not?
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This is the most compelling argument I've seen! Yes, the spy world moves in mysterious ways, and yet - if Danny posed such a treath, I do think there would be "easier" (for them) and more permanent ways to deal with him than the conspiracy they inveigled him in. This does not in any way detract from my appreciation of the story, though. It creates a world of its own.
I have more to say but will have to continue later.
But before I go... You are aware that Ben Whishaw is coming to NYC to perform on stage this spring, I assume? Are you going to see the crucible?
CellarDweller:
I'm really liking the fan art!
Aloysius J. Gleek:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on February 22, 2016, 06:48:33 am ---Oh, thank you so much for this long and thoughtful reply! :)
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;) :-*
--- Quote from: Mikaela on February 22, 2016, 06:48:33 am ---Maybe glacial was the wrong word. Challenging might be better. The slow pace and the riddles within riddles require something of the viewers. You don't get to follow this story lightly while your mind is partly on other things... At any rate, I came to appreciate the pace, even as it was frustrating because I am. Conditioned by so many shows and stories to wanting All The Answers Now!!
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As an aphasic, I like a slow pace. I don't want "the answer" to come too quickly because it might just whiz by and I won't have time to process it. When there are frustrations, I am much more likely to find relief by seeking extracurricular info like MAPS and TIME LINES--thank you, Google! (If only the now out-of-date words "Don't be Evil" were true when, unfortunately, Google is more likely one of *them*--)
--- Quote from: Mikaela on February 22, 2016, 06:48:33 am ---This is the most compelling argument I've seen! Yes, the spy world moves in mysterious ways, and yet - if Danny posed such a threat, I do think there would be "easier" (for them) and more permanent ways to deal with him than the conspiracy they inveigled him in. This does not in any way detract from my appreciation of the story, though. It creates a world of its own.
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The Nearly Omniscient and Clever may not (almost certainly not!) be 'logical'. *They* can be mean, or whimsical, or--jealous.
Or occasionally--helpful?
After the confusing return to London from the 'visit with the Parents' in Oxfordshire, that very short, chilling scene on the river with "the American" who so frightened poor Danny--and the malign sign (or--benign warning??) of the HIV medication inside the practically glowing, enrobed blood-red sweet--something the Evil Queen could have conjured up--all mixed up with the Wachowskis' Matrix--a Blue Pill inside the Red Pill--how crazy was that?? (Actor Clarke Peters was terrific in those few minutes!)
Like Scottie, we love Danny because he is foolishly brave--
--- Quote from: Mikaela on February 22, 2016, 06:48:33 am ---But before I go... You are aware that Ben Whishaw is coming to NYC to perform on stage this spring, I assume? Are you going to see the crucible?
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I know this will sound stupid, but--I can't watch John Proctor/Ben Whishaw/Danny Holt be hanged next week--the previews start March 1. Too much, too soon!
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