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serious crayons:
I actually like all the lines mentioned above, except the Bobby one (and the bowl of Trix doesn't help -- I was totally baffled by that interaction for a long time) and the coffee one, which doesn't quite make sense to me either. Why would Ennis say "he's from Texas" in response to an offer of coffee?

But OK then. Speaking of hardhats. Let me preface by saying that I totally subscribe to the Heath-is-God viewpoint, his performance is exquisite, I'd put it against anything done by Sean Penn or Brando or anyone else in the history of movies, he has gone from being an actor I hardly noticed to being my favorite actor, he definitely should have won BA as I've argued many many times ...

But. There are two deliveries of his that I don't like.

I don't like when he says he's dropping the girls off at the grocery store and suddenly briefly sounds Australian. That makes me cringe. I'm not blaming him so much, because I'm sure it's hard to maintain a foreign accent while doing everything else (as Heath has implied in interviews). But with all the care that's taken to every other detail, I don't see why they didn't just redo that scene or the sound or whatever. (Actually that whole scene seems a little bit "off" to me, perhaps because as was discussed elsewhere it was originally supposed to go in a different part of the movie.)

And the other is in the otherwise phenomenal "can't quit you" scene. He obviously is great in every other way in that scene. But I don't like the way he says "if I should come to know them" because he says "them" rather than "'em," which I think Ennis would actually say.

Come to think of it, I'm not crazy about that whole line. I love Ennis getting jealous and angry about Jack's trips to Mexico. But threatening murder seems a bit much, even if we know he wouldn't actually carry it out.

newyearsday:
I've always felt that when Jack is talking to Ennis in the "tent don't look right" scene, he kind of falls out of his accent a little bit on the "Well it ain't goin' nowhere. Let it be!" line. Or he is somehow a little inauthentic here. It just feels a bit too staged to me. The positioning of the actors or the way it plays out. But I do love the way he and Heath end the scene, with Heath warming his hands over the fire and Jake smiling so big.

I don't like when he says he's dropping the girls off at the grocery store and suddenly briefly sounds Australian. That makes me cringe. I'm not blaming him so much, because I'm sure it's hard to maintain a foreign accent while doing everything else (as Heath has implied in interviews). But with all the care that's taken to every other detail, I don't see why they didn't just redo that scene or the sound or whatever. (Actually that whole scene seems a little bit "off" to me, perhaps because as was discussed elsewhere it was originally supposed to go in a different part of the movie.)

Wow, I didn't know it was supposed to go in another part of the movie. Is that what people were talking about when we had the point made that he could have made that story up to go and see Jack? B/c as it is, it was before the reunion.

I also cringe a little bit when he reverts to the Aussie accent in the word "shirt" as in--look in the top pocket of my blue shirt" right after the reunion kiss scene.

serious crayons:
The shirt line, yes. Why didn't they fix those? ??? That one they could have easily rerecorded later, because he's not even onscreen when he says it.

>>Is that what people were talking about when we had the point made that he could have made that story up to go and see Jack? B/c as it is, it was before the reunion.

My understanding -- and I may have the details wrong -- is that it originally was going to go post-reunion. Which makes somewhat more sense. On the other hand, that way doesn't make perfect sense to me, either. Why would he only be out HALF the night? Why would he tell her to bring home round steak? If Jack has driven all that way to see him, wouldn't they at least spend the whole night together?

That said, I think otherwise everyone in the movie does a fantastic job of sounding authentically Western, at least to my Midwestern ears.

Nicole:

--- Quote from: newyearsday on April 05, 2006, 01:01:48 pm ---I've always felt that when Jack is talking to Ennis in the "tent don't look right" scene, he kind of falls out of his accent a little bit on the "Well it ain't goin' nowhere. Let it be!" line. Or he is somehow a little inauthentic here. It just feels a bit too staged to me. The positioning of the actors or the way it plays out. But I do love the way he and Heath end the scene, with Heath warming his hands over the fire and Jake smiling so big.

--- End quote ---

I actually love that exchange - it makes me laugh.  I love Jake's delivery there.  Isn't it interesting that we all have such different likes/dislikes about the movie?  I love that!

David:
Nicole,  I agree with you.  I love that scene.  Heath and jack argue like a married couple, how sweet!      Plus that little laugh Jack has at the end.    Gotta love it!   :-*

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