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Front-Ranger:
Off on a tangent. As you know, I put in a security system a year ago. I keep track of all the door and window statuses on my phone. Last night I checked it as I went to bed and noticed that it said my car was parked 50 feet away.

During the night, I woke up and checked my phone. It now said my car was parked 60 feet away. My car must have been trying to creep away under cover of darkness!!  :laugh:

Sason:

--- Quote from: brian on May 26, 2020, 07:53:19 pm ---I wondered that when I took the ferry from Wales to Ireland. They had a lane in Dublin for Irish and UK citizens to walk straight through while I had to take the lane for other citizens and show my passport. As my great grandparents come from the North of England, I wondered how they would tell if I did not open my mouth. My accent would give me away.
However, when I took the ferry from Denmark to England, everyone just waved their passports. Leaving Denmark (Esbjerg), the guy noticed mine, smiled and said "Ah Australian, Princess Mary." Now that I have a NZ passport, I always say I will only use my Australian passport for Australia (that is the law) and Denmark.

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 :laugh:

They might give you VIP treatment because they think you're one of her closest friends!

Sason:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 26, 2020, 08:41:00 pm ---My, life is complicated these days! I'm so glad you can visit your Mum, Sonja. Let us know how it goes.

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Thanks Lee. I sure will.

It will take some time still, there's only a limited number of time slots in the tent in the garden.

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 27, 2020, 01:02:56 pm ---About the tracing, it's done through your cell phone. Smart phones work by contacting the nearest tower or satellite and so movements of the population can easily be tracked. Even if you turn off your location in Settings, it can still be determined how far and how much people are moving about. I'm not sure about flip phones, but they can be roughly tracked also. Since 99% of the population carries a mobile phone, this is an accurate determinator of movement.
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I've heard that, about tracking by tracking your cell phone. (In fact, we see this all the time as a plot point in scripted TV "procedurals.") This is not reassuring. Once we begin doing this with cell phones, the government will see this as a opportunity to use it for far more purposes than just tracing people who have been exposed to a disease.


--- Quote ---As far as "returning to normal", what is normal? After cataclysms like this in the past, some whole industries collapsed, while others surged. My fear is that if we try to return to the normal of the past, we'll just fall into a Depression, because the past ways of doing things don't work anymore. This was evident way before the pandemic but now we have the perfect opportunity to sweep the old ways away. In some cases, technology will help us build whole new industries and networks. In other cases, we'll be wise to return to heirloom approaches.

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Sure enough, we do have "the perfect opportunity to sweep the old ways away," but don't forget, when we do this, people get swept away along with them.

brianr:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on May 27, 2020, 09:53:09 am ---Brian, what is the government tracing app? Is that something that shows the government where everyone has been so they can keep track of their movements?

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The Australian and the NZ seem to be different. From what I read the Australian uses blue tooth and records any other phones you have been close to for more than a certain period of time. The NZ one I hold up to the QR code which is appearing at front doors of shops and cafes everywhere and my phone keeps a record of where I have been. It is suppose to disappear from your phone after 30 days.

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