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serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on June 23, 2020, 03:08:48 am ---After almost three weeks without any new Corona case in my county plus the two neighboring counties, we're back to one new case. This sh*t ain't over yet. :(
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Only one new case? Wow. I didn't realize the spread was that slowed down anywhere (except New Zealand :)).
Looks like Ennis made the right decision to stay in Wyoming. Only 20 deaths there -- the lowest state in the U.S., though followed closely by Montana with 21.
No other state comes close; only about three others are less than 100.
CellarDweller:
Hiya!
Lee, I'm moving this quote from my blog to here, as I thought you may see it here first.
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on June 19, 2020, 05:36:46 pm --- Today I met with my traveling buddies who I'm going to Europe with (hopefully) in mid-August. We've kind of put off looking at the lodging photos and the itinerary because we didn't want to get our hopes up too much. But if all goes well, we'll be visiting nine countries! England, France, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, Italy and Spain. Oh, and San Marino!
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I saw this on the site for the New York Times. I had to do a quick grab, as I'm not a subscriber there.
E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus
European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: CellarDweller on June 23, 2020, 09:50:15 pm ---Hiya!
Lee, I'm moving this quote from my blog to here, as I thought you may see it here first.
I saw this on the site for the New York Times. I had to do a quick grab, as I'm not a subscriber there.
E.U. May Bar American Travelers as It Reopens Borders, Citing Failures on Virus
European Union officials are racing to agree on who can visit the bloc as of July 1 based on how countries of origin are faring with new coronavirus cases. Americans, so far, are excluded, according to draft lists seen by The New York Times.
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Yes, I've read that, too. It irritated the heck out of me because it's only half correct.
So far:
* all borders have been closed since mid or end March, even within the EU (exceptions for trade in goods and business commuters living near borders).
* Then single countries started to re-open some borders to selected neighboring countries.
* Now (recently) all borders within the EU plus 4 associated countries (Norway, Switzerland, etc) are open again, even for touristic purposes.
For the rest of the world, the EU borders stay closed so far (more or less, there's exceptions). Hence it's nothing new that the EU plans to bar US travelers from coming over. They have been barred for months already.
The difference is that now they're contemplating to re-open to some non-EU countries, and if so, under which circumstances and to whom they should open.
Since the US is doing really bad regarding Corona, they're surely not among the countries who can hope to visit the EU soon.
And just for the sake of completeness: the US has barred all travelers from the EU since back in March, too. And doesn't have any plans to change that anytime soon.
Bonus fact: your beloved orange one (satire!) has barred all EU inhabitants, but explicitly not the British, as a kind of reward to them since they left the EU. A big show was made of that. But it didn't last long. British people have then been barred from entering the US, too. Only the orange one didn't tout it as loudly.
Penthesilea:
In terms of what this means for Lee's and Adam's trip: I don't know. Things are changing fast and are changing all the time.
But I do have a gut feeling: I think that this summer and early fall it won't be possible to travel between our continents. Monika and I also had travel plans for Canada in August. I don't think it will come to pass.
But you never know, like I already said: maybe things change for the better faster than I think. I wish you good luck for your travel plans!
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on June 24, 2020, 06:19:03 am ---In terms of what this means for Lee's and Adam's trip: I don't know. Things are changing fast and are changing all the time.
But I do have a gut feeling: I think that this summer and early fall it won't be possible to travel between our continents. Monika and I also had travel plans for Canada in August. I don't think it will come to pass.
But you never know, like I already said: maybe things change for the better faster than I think. I wish you good luck for your travel plans!
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Even if it becomes possible, is it wise to do it?
Is your health--indeed, your life--worth a visit to Lichtenstein? I'm not saying that in an attempt to be funny. Right now I'm very reluctant to travel anywhere in the U.S., even here in the Northeast, other than to visit my father.
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