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brianr:
Australians have to apply for exemption to leave Australia and it is very difficult to obtain. My Brother-in-law's nephew has lived in Prague for 20 years and been married to a Czech woman for 10 years and it took months for him to get an exemption. A problem was that he does not own his home in Prague, it is in his wife's name and he owns a unit in Sydney and has children and grandchildren there from his first marriage. It seems it took a letter from his wife's GP (she flew  home a few weeks before lockdown) about her health that finally swayed the exemption.
In New Zealand we can leave but must quarantine in a guarded hotel for 14 days on return and pay (as in Australia) $3,000. You are tested on Days 3 and 12.
It is just not possible to consider overseas travel from either country before 2021 at the earliest.
However yesterday in NZ, we celebrated 100 days without any community transmission. While we have a trickle of cases in quarantine, it has been 6 days since the last. There are no cases in hospital and we have the lowest death rate (22 out of 5 million) of OECD countries.

brianr:

--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on August 09, 2020, 08:09:29 pm ---I wish I could cancel, but i feel compelled, for the sake or my traveling buddies, to make an effort to go on the trip.

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When are you travelling?  Do you know that currently people are not allowed to fly to France (and probably most other European countries) from the USA except under certain exemptions.

Front-Ranger:

--- Quote from: brian on August 09, 2020, 10:27:29 pm ---When are you travelling?  Do you know that currently people are not allowed to fly to France (and probably most other European countries) from the USA except under certain exemptions.

--- End quote ---

Hi brian. Yes, I am aware of all the restrictions. Our flight to Paris was cancelled months ago.

I'm leaving Friday morning for the East Coast and will then fly to the UK for two weeks of quarantine before proceeding to the Continent. 

brianr:
I have just had an email from a lady in our walking group. She and her husband went to the UK for a holiday in February, not sure how long they planned. They were there 6 months, 12 flights home cancelled, They have finally reached NZ and are quarantined in a hotel on the North Island for 14 days. The hotel has high fences and army around it, they mainly have to stay in their room with meals, no choice, delivered on a tray to the door, there is a knock and they open while staff stand back, they must service the room themselves and leave sheets in a bag outside the door. Assuming they test negative on day 12 they will be home and rejoining us next week. Fortunately they will not have to pay $3000.
If anyone here was to tell me they were flying to the UK next week, I would suggest they had a mental checkup
It seems we live on different planets.
But we have concerts, movies, restaurants, in fact life as normal, we are being asked to buy masks just in case, no need to wear.
We think we are the luckiest country in the world.

Front-Ranger:
Yes, New Zealand is quite a success story. You and your country should be proud.

The news out of the U.S. is certainly cringe-worthy. Apparently the southern states are out of control. I wish we could block people from coming to Colorado from those crazy states. But I don't go out in public anyway, so it would not affect me (knock on wood).

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