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Corona - what does help you? Your fears, thoughts, everything
CellarDweller:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 21, 2020, 01:05:47 pm ---So, the scenario in New Jersey may play out like this: people will rush to the stores to stock up and buy Thanksgiving provisions and then they'll go home, lock themselves inside with their family members, have a big feast and spread germs to each other. It's curious how he says not to even go outside. (I'm thankful for my large backyard garden.)
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It wouldn't surprise me to see this happen.
Thanksgiving for my immediate family will be just the four of us, and since we've only been going out as necessary, we're all safe.
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 21, 2020, 01:05:47 pm ---So, I was actually supposed to travel again three days ago, but I realized several weeks ago that it was not going to happen. I contacted traveling buddies and told them of my decision and sent money to pay for my share of the lodgings which he said were uncancelable. So I haven't heard from them since that time, and I'm afraid they're mad at me, but I was simply dying of stress even thinking about making the journey. :(
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As for you backing out of the trip, you have to do what's right for you. Had you gone, I suspect that you would've spent the majority of your trip worried about picking up the virus, and wouldn't have enjoyed yourself.
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--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 21, 2020, 01:05:47 pm ---So, I was actually supposed to travel again three days ago, but I realized several weeks ago that it was not going to happen. I contacted traveling buddies and told them of my decision and sent money to pay for my share of the lodgings which he said were uncancelable. So I haven't heard from them since that time, and I'm afraid they're mad at me, but I was simply dying of stress even thinking about making the journey.
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People should get to set their own boundaries. Especially since there are so many people who believe everybody should be responsible just for themselves. Those might sound similar, but they're kind of opposites. Setting your boundaries means ordering your groceries instead of shopping, turning down the dinner invitation, etc. The people who think it's everyone for themselves think that if they go into a crowded place without a mask they're only risking their own health
The other day on Nextdoor, a guy took the "everyone for themselves" side. There were probably 15 people on that thread trying to point out that not wearing a mask was not just all about him. At one point, I said, Jerry, do you know how contagion works? Because if you don't, we can have a discussion about that. But if you do know, you need to connect the dots and see how others could be affected by your going maskless in public.
Jerry never acknowledged that, just kept coming back with comments like "I don't care about your FEELINGS" in posts full of Trumplike all-caps.
Finally, Jerry said "I'll give a million dollars to anyone who can point to a study showing correlation between masks and COVID." So five minutes later a guy posted a study and said "I'll take that million." Then he linked a second study and said "Now it's two million." Then a whole page full of studies and said he wanted 21 million." I said, "Don't get greedy! Jerry didn't say he'd offer a million for every individual study. Just take your million and have fun with it."'
Not sure if he got his money using Venmo or Paypal or in person or with a check in the mail.
Going maskless to a crowded Trump rally or a motorcycle rally (or here people did it at a rodeo, Brokies!) is stupid for everyone involved. But in the end you catch COVID from just one person, whether they're at a big rally or across the table. That kind of blew me away when I thought about it.
Front-Ranger:
I heard from my traveling friends so they are not that mad at me. They're in the usual Gloucester place right behind the Man at the Wheel statue. So, it's very rainy there? Fallout from one of our many hurricanes this year?
It's amazing to me, Katherine, how much energy people in the U.S. expend talking about face masks. In Europe, there is no debate. You have your mask with you, you always wear it whenever signs tell you to.
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--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 25, 2020, 07:02:36 pm ---It's amazing to me, Katherine, how much energy people in the U.S. expend talking about face masks. In Europe, there is no debate. You have your mask with you, you always wear it whenever signs tell you to.
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I mean, I haven't seen anyone refusing in a store or anything, though I mostly shop in pretty blue neighborhoods. But I've been to protests and I've seen people objecting online. Our national leader has, by example, depicted mask-wearing as wimpy and emasculating or something. We have fake news "experts" who claim masks are not effective. We have people who complain that a mask mandate tramples on their liberties. (I've asked numerous times whether it's then OK to drive 80 mph through a residential neighborhood because speed limits trample on their liberties.)
And we have people who are stupid. Objecting to mask wearing is like objecting to national health care. They're both about not caring what happens to other people.
Frankly, I think this may actually be what the founders had in mind. Encouraging people to have the freedom to express their thoughts and to live with limited government interference. Maybe they just didn't foresee people as being this stupid.
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--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 25, 2020, 07:02:36 pm ---I heard from my traveling friends so they are not that mad at me.
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Yay! :D
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