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Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 27, 2021, 02:44:44 pm ---Yeah, I've always wondered if that song counts as rapping. I don't think so, but I'm not sure exactly why. Something about the rhythm, maybe?

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I wouldn't count it as rapping. The delivery reminds me of--something--but I can't place it. Maybe it was some song about the 1980s that I used to hear over the speakers at my gym, but I can't recall that either, and I'm certain I never knew who did it. It's almost like some sort of chant until he gets to the chorus.

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2021, 03:31:01 pm ---I wouldn't count it as rapping. The delivery reminds me of--something--but I can't place it. Maybe it was some song about the 1980s that I used to hear over the speakers at my gym, but I can't recall that either, and I'm certain I never knew who did it. It's almost like some sort of chant until he gets to the chorus.
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Well, that's kind of what rapping is like -- saying rhyming phrases tunelessly between choruses -- right? Some rappers are more tuneless than Michael Stipe, but then all other REM songs have tunes, so it's a novelty for Stipe. Eminem can chant even faster than Stipe does in ItEotWaWKI.

I do think there's a diffaerence in rhythm or beat, but I don't really understand that stuff. Someone more familiar with rap might ....

... OK, I just texted one of my sons. He said: "I feel like just stylistically it doesn't really fit as rap." That seems true, if a little lacking in definitiveness. Certainly the subject matter and kinds of things they talk about are different.



 

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: serious crayons on April 27, 2021, 08:35:27 pm ---Well, that's kind of what rapping is like -- saying rhyming phrases tunelessly between choruses -- right? Some rappers are more tuneless than Michael Stipe, but then all other REM songs have tunes, so it's a novelty for Stipe. Eminem can chant even faster than Stipe does in ItEotWaWKI.

I do think there's a diffaerence in rhythm or beat, but I don't really understand that stuff. Someone more familiar with rap might ....

... OK, I just texted one of my sons. He said: "I feel like just stylistically it doesn't really fit as rap." That seems true, if a little lacking in definitiveness. Certainly the subject matter and kinds of things they talk about are different.

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I know nothing about rap except that it's a thing. I was under the impression that the lyrics were (probably) slower than Stipe.

southendmd:
Here is my version of early rap:  it's from 1955, "Guys and Dolls".  Whadya think?

southendmd:
And then there was this, from "Music Man" (1957), also early rap, in my opinion. 

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