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Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on November 06, 2006, 07:51:28 pm ---Uh... I was doing the last name first thing?

It's official:  I'm retarded.  Shows what I know.  Thanks for straightening me out on that one, Jeff.

And I agree with you - I'm a big fan of Mike Jones, too.  And not because he happened to out a particularly hypocritical Republican that I loathe passionately anyway - but because it took a lot of cajones to do what he did knowing that he'd be incriminating himself for hustling and for possibly trafficking meth.  I don't know how the law works on that (hell, I don't know my favorite politicians' names!) - maybe you can't be prosecuted for things of that nature when you're no longer hustling/selling.  Still, it took a lot of guts.  I've seen an interview of him, and he doesn't at all strike me as someone who's looking to get his fifteen minutes of infamy.  It seems like he's sincerely just trying to point out the hypocrisy in terms of the coming election.

And as I always say and has been said in other ways here, show me a homophobe, and I'll show you a closeted homosexual.  It's tragic how he's propogated his self-loathing to so many impressionable young minds.  If nothing else, that Mike Jones brought that to an end is reason enough to find him heroic.

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No, you're not. Retarded. I completely missed it.

Like: "Obama. Barrack Obama."  ;D

And thanks for your observations on Mike Jones, too. What he did took more intestinal fortitude than I possess, and I know it. I was a little troubled that he was said to have flunked the lie detector questions that had to do with having sex with Haggard, but I guess that's a moot point since Haggard has confessed.

I cannot begin to say how much I am physically revolted by people like Ted Haggard. I'm not looking to preach a sermon here, or to offend the atheists, but, as a believer myself, I meant exactly what I said when I called him a Pharisee. If people like him don't like gays, that's their right in a free nation, but people like him who try to use religion--specifically Christianity--to cloak their reactionary social opinions/agenda while they cozy up to the ruling authorities are just like the sort of people--the Pharisees--whom Jesus of Nazareth excoriated in first-century Palestine. And they're just as blind, since they cannot see themselves in the Bible they profess to revere so much.

OK, sorry folks--out of my pulpit/off my soap box. ...

ednbarby:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on November 06, 2006, 08:24:29 pm ---And thanks for your observations on Mike Jones, too. What he did took more intestinal fortitude than I possess, and I know it. I was a little troubled that he was said to have flunked the lie detector questions that had to do with having sex with Haggard, but I guess that's a moot point since Haggard has confessed.

I cannot begin to say how much I am physically revolted by people like Ted Haggard. I'm not looking to preach a sermon here, or to offend the atheists, but, as a believer myself, I meant exactly what I said when I called him a Pharisee. If people like him don't like gays, that's their right in a free nation, but people like him who try to use religion--specifically Christianity--to cloak their reactionary social opinions/agenda while they cozy up to the ruling authorities are just like the sort of people--the Pharisees--whom Jesus of Nazareth excoriated in first-century Palestine. And they're just as blind, since they cannot see themselves in the Bible they profess to revere so much.
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I will hand it to Haggard in that he at least has confessed, only insomuch as it takes the burden of proof off of Mike Jones.  I can totally understand where he would have an emotional reaction to that question that would make the lie detector needle jump.  I'm with all the folks, really, who think it's a lousy way to prove someone guilty or innocent - they don't use it in court generally for the reason that it is so unreliable.  I think the fact that he volunteered to do it in the first place says way more than a little blip on the machine.

I despise hypocrisy in any form.  But when someone uses it to influence large numbers of people, many of them young, it absolutely infuriates me.  Is there room up there on that soapbox for me, too?  ;)

Jeff Wrangler:

--- Quote from: ednbarby on November 06, 2006, 08:33:50 pm ---I despise hypocrisy in any form.  But when someone uses it to influence large numbers of people, many of them young, it absolutely infuriates me.  Is there room up there on that soapbox for me, too?  ;)

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The more the merrier, Little Darlin'! Yeehaw!  ;D

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