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nakymaton:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on November 08, 2006, 04:07:00 pm ---I agree, Mel. Unfortunately, my unscientific impression is that the only answer to preventing the tragedy in the first place so often put forward by people who would ban abortion is to tell people, particularly young people, "Don't have sex."
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Yeah. And the same groups also tend to disapprove of any kinds of sex that don't make too many babies.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 08, 2006, 04:31:37 pm ---Well, there is a long-term solution and that is education, affordable and easily accessible birth control tools, awareness training, and enabling for women. In all of the societies where women have the power, education, and tools, birth rates have gone down to sustainable levels.
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No doubt, Lee. The trouble is that the so-called "right-to-life"/anti-abortion people, in my impression, also tend to be against the eminently sane and sensible program you've described, especially the birth control part, and their idea of "education" is to tell people, "Don't have sex."
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 08, 2006, 04:31:37 pm ---Well, there is a long-term solution and that is education, affordable and easily accessible birth control tools, awareness training, and enabling for women. In all of the societies where women have the power, education, and tools, birth rates have gone down to sustainable levels.
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Great set of "tools" for avoiding pregnancy. And to it we can add homosexuality. Not many gay and lesbian people have abortions. :)
JennyC:
For Barb
I went into last night with a good feeling that Democrats will take the house. As the night progressed (the few advantages of being on the west coast), it was getting better and better. By the time I called it a night around 1am PST, it was very hopeful that democrats will not only take a house by a pretty substantial margin, but also the senate.
If we could change the outcome of the senate race slightly, I would trade the Democrats win in Rode Island with the loss in Tennessee. Lincoln Chafee unfortunate became the collateral damage of people’s dissatisfaction of the current administration and the war in Iraq. He was the one who did not vote for the war and didn’t vote for Bush in 2004 (but wrote in Bush Sr. to show his loyalty to the party). I respect him for being a moderate republican, and having the guts to say no to the war at the beginning when the political atmosphere was so toxic after 9/11 and any disagreement from the Bush administration was viewed unpatriotic. The war is wrong on the principle it was operated on, period. On the other hand, Harold Ford Jr. is a young man that has a brilliant political future. I was really hoping he would win, but unfortunately he came off short. His concession speech, IMO, is better than most of the victory speeches. I am sure he will come back.
JennyC:
I should also add that my husband and I were laughing at ourselves for being so emotionally invested in the mid-term election when we don’t even have the right to vote. Of course we shrugged our self criticism by saying since when does that stop us from having an opinion on anything. Isn’t that a lot of people do, having an opinion on things that really none of their business? ;)
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