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brianr:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on November 22, 2020, 02:35:21 pm ---
Let's hope they don't enforce it the way Brian said New Zealand did or could, with cops allowed to barge into households to make sure everyone inside lived there. That was the one precaution Brian has outlined that I would balk at. But then, when NZ cops burst into a home they're probably less likely to shoot anyone.
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LOL
Our police do not routinely carry guns although there is regular discussion about changing that. We are more likely (as early this year) to have national mourning due the the death of a policeman. Two young police officers made a routine traffic stop and the driver jumped out and shot them both, one fatally. His funeral was delayed as close relatives had to come from Australia and undergo 14 days quarantine. The funeral (in our largest football stadium) was broadcast on TV about 2 hours. It was very emotional. Just the Haka at the end has me in tears
Sason:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on November 21, 2020, 01:22:46 pm ---I spent several HOURS on Thursday ordering groceries for Thanksgiving week, picking them up yesterday. One thing the store didn't have and didn't even have a substitute, was carrots. Carrots!
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What would be a substitute for carrots I wonder.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: brian on November 22, 2020, 05:10:16 pm ---LOL
Our police do not routinely carry guns although there is regular discussion about changing that. We are more likely (as early this year) to have national mourning due the the death of a policeman. Two young police officers made a routine traffic stop and the driver jumped out and shot them both, one fatally. His funeral was delayed as close relatives had to come from Australia and undergo 14 days quarantine. The funeral (in our largest football stadium) was broadcast on TV about 2 hours. It was very emotional. Just the Haka at the end has me in tears
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Your fellow citizens are much less murderous than ours, that's for sure. Whether via gun or COVID.
Weren't the first Europeans in Australia criminals, taken there as prisoners? I could very easily be wrong, but that's how I seem to remember my ancient history. And of course, that might not apply to NZ.
In any case, much of the United States was settled by extremely religious people. Funny how things work out.
brianr:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on November 22, 2020, 06:31:50 pm ---Your fellow citizens are much less murderous than ours, that's for sure. Whether via gun or COVID.
Weren't the first Europeans in Australia criminals, taken there as prisoners? I could very easily be wrong, but that's how I seem to remember my ancient history. And of course, that might not apply to NZ.
In any case, much of the United States was settled by extremely religious people. Funny how things work out.
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Yes the first Europeans to settle in Australia were convicts from England. But they could be transported for 7 years for stealing a loaf of bread. That was not true of NZ. However 16.5% of our population are Maori, a very blood thirsty culture. They regularly raided and murdered between tribes before colonisation. They fought a very strong battle against the British in the Maori Wars.
I think access to guns is the major difference. Thankfully we do not have a right to bear arms.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: brian on November 22, 2020, 06:49:49 pm ---I think access to guns is the major difference. Thankfully we do not have a right to bear arms.
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Probably. The Founders thought it was important to specify that because many early colonists were fleeing despotic European governments and felt they needed to protect themselves against government tyranny.
That might have made sense in the 18th century, but the concept sure backfired (no pun intended).
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