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Saw the Hand Holdin'.
sparkle_motion:
Call me a romantic, but I think Jack grabbed Ennis' arm out of excitement and wanting to feel connected to him.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: sparkle_motion on April 08, 2006, 06:00:03 pm ---Call me a romantic, but I think Jack grabbed Ennis' arm out of excitement and wanting to feel connected to him.
--- End quote ---
Well, I hate to start another debate that could probably grow to rival the sorry/s'alright conflict, but to my eyes it is Ennis grabbing Jack's arm.
Brown Eyes:
Well, before the fist pounding, Jack is already reaching back with his right hand (I suppose reaching back for Ennis in some fashion). Then after the fist pounding, it really does look like it's Ennis reaching for Jack's hand. I like that reading better... I think it's more romantic if Ennis is the one initiating that level of intimacy this early on.
And, in regards to the "I ain't no queer" problem... neither one of them has said this to the other yet. It might not have been a concern of Jack's at this point. And, here's a moment (obviously) when that kind of "cover" statement just flies out the window anyway. In my reading of the film (and book) the extreme pleasure that they take in each other physically (AND their intense emotional connections during sex - especially the 2nd tent scene) are meant to show us that the "I ain't no queer" is just a heartbreaking fib. An aspect of being in the closet. Ennis has to work for 20 years to get those words out of his head... but I think when he's physically with Jack, that statement almost has no meaning/ power.
Sheyne:
I SAW IT!! I SAW IT!! I SAW IT!!! YAY!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Oh god, how much hotter is this scene now??!?!?!!? Phwoarrrr...
*fans self*
Finally got to download that You Tube clip - 4 nights in 20 years, its a great clip and the tent scene is clear enough and light enough to catch the hands. And now that I have frame-by-framed it all afternoon, I have to venture that Ennis's hand is on "lil Jack". Cause it looks like he is reaching down there the whole time, from the initial penetration to the climax. This is quite obvious from the very quick flash before Jack grabs Ennis's hand with BOTH of his hands. Its clear as a bell where Ennis's hand is ...
*fans self again*
Gotta go watch it again, sorry!!! :o ;D
Daniel:
Yes, I went to see it for the last time yesterday in the theatre... Best 50 cents I ever spent...
There was a family in there with young children, and I mean young. I'm thinking like, "Don't you people realize this is rated R for a reason?" Anyway, I warned them shortly before the first tent scene that it might not be appropriate for the younger children, so the mom led the kids out just before it then came back.
The parents also left during the first tent scene, rather noisily I might add, so I managed to miss the hand holding...
The DVD will be arriving today (one of them anyway, I'm still looking for a British DVD in Region 1 Format.. lol, and where the heck is my poster?)
I also didn't see Ennis mouth "I love you" when he holds the two shirts. He just seemed to be breathing heavily, open mouthed, as if in disbelief and painful memory.
Speaking of the two shirts, this has probably already been pointed out, but I find it strangely compelling that the blood stains were at the wrist, just where the nails would have been driven in during the Roman crucifixion. Granted they're not on both sleeves, but it was just some strange thing I wanted to point out.
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