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loneleeb3:

--- Quote from: Shakestheground on October 05, 2007, 12:43:34 pm ---I wouldn;t doubt the news outlet is riding on the coattails of Larry craig putting this out there.

I think I am going to have to do something. This is not even my town but it needs to be answered.

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We should all write letters to the editor!  >:(

southendmd:
A lot of towns publish "police notes" in the local paper, which sometimes consist of the names of people in the community who were arrested in the past week and why.

Even in liberal-minded Provincetown, they continue this practice.  Despite numerous letters of protest, the publisher simply added a disclaimer about the presumption of innocence. 


Daniel:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on October 05, 2007, 11:46:32 am ---Wouldn't you just think the police would have more important things to do? As long as these guys aren't going after kids?

I bet this is the kind of thing Rudy Guliani approves of, with his "quality of life" emphasis.  >:(

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Rudy Giuliani is the only republican candidate that seems to be in favor of gay marriage, so I'm not entirely certain why you think he is opposed to it.

moremojo:

--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on October 05, 2007, 12:35:49 pm ---Tell you what, unless I'm forgetting something--which is entirely possible  ;D --forgive me for asking this, but did even that sleazoid Larry Craig do anything more than "indicate interest"?

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No, he didn't. That's the brutal truth for anyone out to ride Craig out of town on this one. The worst Craig did, as far as I can see, is invade his neighbor's privacy by extending his foot and hand into the next stall, and touching the one man's foot with his (could this be construed as assault?). The fact remains that NO SEX occurred between Craig and the officer--the latter of whom was unquestionably part of a sting operation, and arguably engaging in entrapment.

moremojo:

--- Quote from: southendmd on October 05, 2007, 12:58:05 pm ---Even in liberal-minded Provincetown, they continue this practice.  Despite numerous letters of protest, the publisher simply added a disclaimer about the presumption of innocence.
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The problem is, presumption of innocence is a letter of the law maintained only in the courts. There is no presumption of innocence in the wider society (was there ever?); an arrest and charge is as good as a conviction in most people's eyes.

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