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Lynne:
--- Quote from: Shakestheground on January 02, 2008, 04:35:16 pm ---I like the 'spaination Aaron gives Christian in Latter Days, and I am parapharaising here:
"I think its everything, this, the stars...." I wish I knew the full quote.
Its my belief that all living things are an extention of God, which is why Jesus said we are all equal.
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Truman - is this the scene you're talking about? The setting is the airport hotel room after Christian and Aaron make love for the first time. I couldn't find a reference with 'stars' searching the script.
Christian: You know, I thought you'd be a little more reticent
Aaron: Well... I'm already going to hell for kissing you so...I may as well take the scenic route
Christian: What God do you believe in
Aaron: It's not just God... it's everything... this... you... tonight. I'm just... turning my back on it all. But you know I guess... a guy like you really doesn't
know what that's like you know... to be completely cut off
To me this speaks more to the nature of hell - being alienation from God and family - instead of the fundamentalist Christian idea of a burning hell - than it does to the nature of God. Tell me more what you're thinking about...
ifyoucantfixit:
That song brings the words of Dylan Thomas to mind.. " Do not go softly into that good night. But rage against the
darkness." Paraphrasing,,,,but you know what i mean...
I dont let harsh words or derrogatory things go by unfettered either. I always try to let people know I dont approve,
and that the things they do or say are hurtful, and mean, and i dont listen to that in my presence. ..However I dont usually kid myself that when i go away they wont continue with the same behavior, and then even speak of myself as part of the group they are trying to assail...That is fine with me. I do hope to be grouped if you will, with all people that are being marginalized or ill treated...But that is how i have always been...So I dont kid myself that what i do or say has much impact on how people act overall..I think the only thing that changes these people are time, and public opinion, and being told others wont accept the behavior either...They only change when its in their best interest to do so...
In otherwords when they, as their victims do. Feel like they are no longer safe to act in a particular way. I doubt
very seldom you actually convert one of them...But i applaud the efforts you make when you try. I realize this is just my
opinion. But it is what i have found to be the case overall.
Lynne:
--- Quote from: Scott on January 03, 2008, 02:45:10 pm ---I hope so, that would be great!
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I completely agree.
--- Quote ---I dunno about that. I think those first few months of new love are dangerous times...thrilling but dangerous. Nothing is really sharp. In fact, it's all pretty hazy; like seeing eveything through a filter, which is why we so often get our hearts broken.
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Weird that I've experienced sharpness and you haze...but I completely agree that it's dangerous - because whatever chemistry is going on, it interferes with clarity of thought!
--- Quote ---Lord don't I know that one, but I actually think the changes that we see coming and don't prepare for, or the situations that we knew would happen if we didn't make changes are hardest to bear because we could have done something.
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Well said and one of the central themes of Brokeback that brought us all here in the first place, right? Sometimes I wish there were solid answers to be had, but I suspect there aren't any - it's the process and the journey and a perpetual quest after some ephemeral truth...
Lynne:
--- Quote from: ifyoucantfixit on January 03, 2008, 02:54:03 pm --- That song brings the words of Dylan Thomas to mind.. " Do not go softly into that good night. But rage against the
darkness." Paraphrasing,,,,but you know what i mean...
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I love that you quoted this, Janice! :-* :-* :-* Glory and I were talking just yesterday about what it might mean to age gracefully (or graciously) and whatever it is, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be able to do it!
Scott6373:
--- Quote from: Lynne on January 03, 2008, 02:56:46 pm ---
Well said and one of the central themes of Brokeback that brought us all here in the first place, right? Sometimes I wish there were solid answers to be had, but I suspect there aren't any - it's the process and the journey and a perpetual quest after some ephemeral truth...
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To quote another of my favorite movies (and I mean this with the royal "you"): "You can't handle the truth", that's why most of the human race make up their own...LOL
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