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Solstice Songs anyone??
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: newyearsday on December 15, 2006, 01:16:33 pm ---
Elle, I might just take you up on that offer! It'd be a great chance to talk, too.
Jenny
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It's a great song, quick to learn, and catchy tune. If you call, and I'd love you to, remember I'm on East Coast time for now. Earlier in the day is better for me.
newyearsday:
--- Quote ---Winter Moon Rapture
cleanse my wounds in winter moon desire
this endless quest for sanctuary pure
as formless levithans swim avernian seas
crystal citadels call me in my dreams
desolate epochs, the statues they weep
through eons passing, the guardians still sleep
the towers of silence
a fortress of strength
this wealth of compassion
would ease my descent
my heart greets forests, once sacred, profane
the earth my mistress in pleasure and pain
seeking solace in the glory that was
of hidden shrines to gods now lost
amongst hopes ruins to find my true place
I orphaned of heritage a man of no race
cleanse my wounds in winter moon desire
this endless quest for sanctuary pure
drown nights sorrow, in rapture divine
enchantment delirium, and yet do I seek
winter moon rapture, the ebb of her light
but I cannot see, for the tears in my eyes
winter moon rapture, the ebb of her light
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Wow, David. That's beautiful, and sad. It's definitely up my alley these days. Is it a poem or a song? Who wrote it? Where can I hear it if it's a song? I want details. Thank you again, very much.
Yay Elle, I will give you a call tomorrow. I didn't know you were on the east coast! Are you in New York?
Jenny
newyearsday:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on December 16, 2006, 02:14:36 pm ---Would one of you like to start a book club thread about The Mists of Avalon?
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Yes, I would be interested in doing that. Though I can't devote much time to it, I am hungry to talk about all this stuff. By the way, I'm completely agreeing with Jeff's take on the scene described above; and some of the book is also making me re-evaluate where our so-called morals come from in this still-patriarchial culture. In college I remember reading about tribes in various cultures that practiced strict marriage between cousins across family gender lines...hard to explain but basically it was very good if a daughter married her father's sister's son or a son married his mother's brother's daughter. Something like that. All based on controlling the female resources in the tribe, however...
Back to The Mists, it's really opened me up to take a longer view of humanity's existance, which I tended to look at before as if anything more than three or four hundred years ago was practically ancient. But now I feel quite close to these characters from 1500 years ago, though I wouldn't understand a word they said if their real language were used in the book.
It's also made me more curious about Atlantis, which I had only heard vague things about, and now that I've done a little research (it's mentioned in the book a couple of times) I'm enjoying the idea of an advanced civilization existing 12,000 years ago. Who cares if it sounds crazy? What do we know of what happened? We think we know so much with our empirical evidence and scientific methods. I'm open to the idea that we know very little in the big picture.
delalluvia:
Here's a solstice song!
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right
Little darling, it's been a long cold lonely winter
Little darling, it feels like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right
Little darling, the smiles returning to the faces
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been here
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun
and I say it's all right
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...
Sun, sun, sun, here it comes...
Little darling, I feel that ice is slowly melting
Little darling, it seems like years since it's been clear
Here comes the sun, here comes the sun,
and I say it's all right
It's all right
It's a what? Oh, well, the lyrics sounded good though. ;D
I, too, have read The Mists of Avalon and the Forest House by Zimmer Bradley. While I enjoyed her feminine pagan POV on things (I adore her Firebrand, the story of the fall of Troy from a woman's POV) her books depress me.
I suppose it's because they're somewhat historical fantasy novels. Regardless of what powers the women have in both the natural and supernatural worlds, what secrets they share, what freedoms they have, you know they're going to lose it all. Her characters know it. Very few of these women of these secret societies are committed to their way of life. Her novels teem with women who just want to be kept, who are easily swayed into letting men do their thinking for them, women who break their commitments to be with men, men who do not share and do not want a world where women have a place aside from being a 'helpmeet' and a man's property. You'd think her female characters would appreciate their world more and be willing to fight and die for it.
newyearsday:
Good one Del!!
I love that song.
Having only read Mists, and not even all of it yet, I can't really debate your points above, ****SPOILER ALERT***
but as for Morgaine and Viviane, they seem like trustworthy keepers of their faith, as much as they can be with the travails and hardships of life (read: Morgaine's leaving Avalon to spite V and then not really being ready or able to return for 18 years). She seems ready to die for it (not that I necessarily take that as the high show of loyalty in all cases). And though Igraine seems to falter and go meekly into the convent after Uther dies, I love how she goes back to supporting Avalon fully and curses the patriarchial priests as she's on her death bed.
Happy almost Solstice, everyone!
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