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Jake In Drag??
Arad-3:
I agree with Jenny. I think Jake sincerely put his heart and soul into that song last night. And I do believe he was sending out a message to his gay fan base. That was the best part of the show. The hour and half that followed was very painful to watch.
I have always been a big fan of SNL. But have not watched it in a couple of years mosly because I was D-jing most Saturday nights and missed it. I was free last night and decided that I wasn't going to miss this one. I was shocked at the crap that they were willing to throw at their audience. I think sixth graders could of come up with better skits and pulled them off better than this new cast of players and writers did. I think its an insult to anybody watching with an ounce of intellegence.
I don't blame Jake for this cause he really has to go along with the writers. I think when he just played himself like the beginning and introducing the band he shined through. But the written skits they put him through were painful to watch. I imagine they were painful for him to do . But then again he is young and maybe he was having a great time with the cast. I myself know that I will never sit home again on a Saturday night to watch SNL. Even if my favorite star is on because I wouldn't want to watch them go through that again. Except for Jake, I give the whole show two thumbs down!
Kelda:
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on January 14, 2007, 11:18:42 am ---
Kelda, my heart, my darling :-* :-* :-*
I haven't seen a bit yet (waitung to load), haven't read the rest of this thread yet - but just jumped in to say
Thank you!
Also I'm not *that* crazy about Jake as some of you are, I can't wait to see it.
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No problem!!
--- Quote from: ednbarby on January 14, 2007, 10:40:05 am ---Kelda, does this one work better for you (or is it just the same one)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o6ylKmx7rc
The link was posted at JW.
;D ;D ;D
(I got my wish, by the way. I think it was here where I said "I'd give anything to hear him sing.")
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Thanks Barb - that worked - i htink it may have been the same one though - perhaps it was becasue it was the last of all the clips I downloaded my PC was just playing up).
--- Quote from: newyearsday on January 14, 2007, 04:22:53 pm ---Last but not least, loved the RAMONA shirt and the way he would look into the camera with this awesome, warm look each time he introduced the band before walking off-camera. YUM.
Jenny
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Romana shirt - I musyt have missed that - when was that?
I have to say - I agree with Dottie & Jenny - he was making a statement in his own way on SNL about being a supporter of gay rights and we all know he is a very outspoken supporter of gay rights. But at the end of the day - BBM - was just part of his career and he has a right o play the fool sometimes.
I enjoyed it. ;D
serious crayons:
I dunno, I didn't think the monologue stuff was horrific -- the humor wasn't mean-spirited -- but part of me agrees with Jess. Besides, if you're going to make jokes involving gay people or any minority group, it's not just more PC, but also funnier, fresher and more original to make ones that challenge or upend stereotypes rather than reinforce them.
For example, I liked Jon Stewart's Oscar night joke about how the film Capote was made "to show that not all gay men are virile cowboys." Does that challenge stereotype or reinforce it? I suppose you could see one that either way, but at the very least it seemed fresher than what SNL did.
But let's face it, SNL just isn't very well written. Which always baffles me, because The Daily Show and The Colbert Report manage to be consistently funny four nights a week, and SNL is only on once a week, but rarely is outright funny. Yet you'd think SNL would attract better writers; it's higher profile, and NBC probably pays better than Comedy Central.
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Meryl:
I've really enjoyed reading all the reactions to the drag bit that Jake did last night, and I can see that it was funny, and I laughed heartily at it (his performance was spot on), but when all is said and done, I come squarely down on Jess's side of the fence on this.
I look forward to the day when the likes of SNL and Jay Leno and David Letterman and all the mainstream media take a hard look at what their comedy is really saying and perpetuating and decide it's time for a change. There is comedy that pokes affectionate fun, and there is comedy that belittles, and making the point yet again that being a gay man also means that you are a silly, fan-girly twit who gets all worked up over campy divas is just another example of the latter.
Some have said that they were relieved that Jake didn't do a BBM-related skit, but IMO he most emphatically did. I actually would have preferred to see him in cowboy attire responding intelligently to some homophobe than catering to that silly stereotype.
ednbarby:
Totally agree, Meryl. I enjoyed his performance very much, but I wish it could have been done sans the overly-exuberant, "obviously" gay men in the audience. I happened to have lunch with several gay men today at a party for a mutual friend, and several of them saw it and felt the same way. They all enjoyed what he did, but most could have done without the rest of it. I realize that was the point of the bit, but that's what makes it so disappointing. One man there put it very succinctly: "Well, consider the source (i.e., SNL/NBC). What else can you expect?"
I did appreciate that at least that was the extent of it. My expectations for them were extremely low going into it (I hoped for the best but I feared the worst), so the fact that they made me cringe only once was pretty good, considering.
And I agree - Jake put everything into belting out that song - just put it all out there - and LIVE. I love the fearlessness in him, too. He is a true performer, is he not? We're lucky to have him out there to enjoy.
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