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Jake In Drag??
welliwont:
ok, my turn to review ;D
I watched it live, and boy was I disappointed! :P >:( not by Jakey, but by the lame pathetic skits. Of course I had such high expectations, so no wonder I was so let down. The dancing meatballs were the worst, talk about cringe-worthy!! They belong on Sesame Street. My inital impression was that every skit sucked big time, and I was totally pissed at the writers. Poor Jakey did what he could with such crappy skits.
The reason for this late review is I surprised myself very much, I watched it again yesterday (oh yeah!) and actually liked it way way more. Probably because it was Jake, of course, but I did laugh, and a lot. I still think the meatballs skit was THE stupidest, and I did not care for the lazer cats thingie either, but as for the wheelchair skit, I thought it was funny for Jake and the girl's over-acting. Even though the two other characters were in wheelchairs, I mean, so what! Can we never have skits using wheelchair-bound characters? The skit was about people's stereotyping, so??? It was funny, laughing at the stereotypers. I don't think anyone was laughing at the wheelchair people... Well anyway, I thought it was funny. and Jakey was good, of course.
The opening was excellent, I mean, Jakey did GREEEEAT, he really belted out that song, and never faltered, at least that I could tell. As for the planted cowboys, they were funny, the expressions were priceless. Yeah they were caricatures of gay cowboys, but funny..... I go back and forth on whether Jakey dissed the gay community on that point. He did do a drag bit, which should not offend, I guess, some gay people like drag shows don't they? For those that don't oh well. As for the planted cowboys, well that is SNL's way, typical SNL humour. I guess all I can say is I don't think it was too disrespectful to BBM, we gotta be able to laugh at it sometime. I mean, look at the PT!!
Anyway, that is my review, the main point I wanted to get across is, you might want to watch the show again, it was wayyyyy funnier for me the second time around.
J
southendmd:
The two "cowboys" in the front row were actually cast members: Will Forte and somebody else.
What bothered me, after the reference to Jake's "new fan base", was when he asked them if they were gay cowboys, they answered, "no, just regular cowboys" in a macho voice. And then, gigled and carried on during the drag number, which Jake said he thought his new fan base would like.
I don't really think this was a parody of Ennis's denial of his being gay. Couldn't help but take it as a bit of a slam on us Brokies. Perhaps I'm being too sensitive. Can we laugh at ourselves?
When some of us dress up in cowboy/cowgirl attire, I guess that's a kind of drag also.
welliwont:
--- Quote from: southendmd on January 15, 2007, 12:17:39 pm ---.... which Jake said he thought his new fan base would like.
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Hi Paul, took Jake's statement "thought his new fan base would like" as reference to his performance, not as reference to the two planted cowboys' performance.
serious crayons:
It's not just those two cowboys who were planted. There was a whole section of planted gay cowboys in the first few rows on the other side. And yes, they were what was irksome about that segment -- not Jake's drag. I don't think they were making fun of Brokies specifically, nor even gay cowboys exactly. They were making fun of gay men.
Ironically, the sketch reinforced the very stereotypes that BBM itself debunks. What if the first two planted cowboys had been Jack and Ennis? Well, then nobody would get the joke -- because there's no obvious signs that they're gay. They would just be cowboys, presumably straight. SNL thinks, or at least they think that viewers think, that you tell the difference between straight men and gay men by their stereotyped behavior.
In that respect, I liked the wheelchair sketch better. It wasn't very funny after the first minute or two (almost all SNL sketches take one joke, repeat it over and over, then fizzle out). But at least in the wheelchair one, they were making fun of the stereotypers instead of the stereotypees.
ednbarby:
Good call, Katherine. That's what I liked about the wheelchair sketch, too.
Yeah, I would have liked the Dreamgirls bit *way* better if the two SNL castmember plants stayed in the Ennis and Jack mode. i.e., if he'd done his drag bit and they'd just sat there like "Are we supposed to like this, or was he talking about someone else?" But like you said, only us Brokies would get the joke, and SNL's demographic is not well-educated, mostly-liberal, unusually compassionate and intelligent people who know a great movie when they see one. It's basically the very people who irk the crap out of us at the imDb board.
It's a shame that they didn't choose to use their power for good for a change. But like my friend yesterday said, it's SNL. What can you expect?
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