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Cameron:
This may go along in the double meaning thread, but I have been thinking about it alot.  The more I have been watching over and over, the more I realize that lines that I thought I understood the first few times I now understand less and less about what they really mean. I guess the more familiar I am with the characters the more I realize that so many lines that were said could actually have many, many, many meanings and now I am trying to figure these out but I guess there are no real answers.

The number one line for me with meaning changes.

"This is a one-shot thing we got going on here"  The more I watch the more I wonder exactly what did this really mean, was the one shot the summer, or Jack, or the relationship? 

Then there are the lines in the sheep fiasco

"What if we need to work for Aguirre again"
"Did you think of that?"

"We got to stick it out, Jack"  Surely this was not just about separating the sheep.

Even " if you can't fix it, you gotta stand it"

"There are no reigns of this one" I know these are obvious ones, but still.

Of course there are now many whole scenes that take on new meanings.

Of course, what exactly was Lureen thinking and trying to say, about the ashes, that is.

What were the words behind silent conversation between Jack and Mrs Twist after he found the shirts, why did she put her hand to her throat at that second looking at Ennis.

In fact, even a seeming innocuous incident, when Jack and LaShawn were dancing and she was just babbling on, to me there was even something meaningful and poignant about her babbling, " I told him you can't fix it with..."  (Please forgive me but I forgot those exact words right now.)

I am sure many of things have been discusses like crazy here previously, but it all really strikes me how ambiguous almost every line in the whole film is once you think you understand.
(I know I listed some of the most obvious one, there are so many more)

fernly:
Couple thoughts about a couple of the lines you mention....

Jack's mom putting her hand to her throat always reminds me of Ennis' dad putting his hand around his nine-year-old son's throat. I see OMT as the one really moving his wife's hand, shutting her up. I saw an interesting documentary about ranch life in Wyoming from about 20 years ago, and one of the wives was talking about the generations of men in the family she married into, how strong and resilient and resourceful they were, but also that "you better not cross them, you better not."

And Lashawn's comment, on a very basic, non-metaphorical level, (and I agree, there certainly are symbolic levels to it) I think functions to show that Randall and Jack have met before. Do you think he just gave them a ride into town, or do you think he helped get their pickup started?

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: goadra on January 27, 2007, 12:40:51 am --- If you can’t fix it then, by God, drive off from it--that’s my motto.”
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Uh-oh ...!  :-\

Lynne:

--- Quote from: latjoreme on January 27, 2007, 07:41:09 pm ---Uh-oh ...!  :-\

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Uh-oh is right.  Jack's adapted Ennis' philosophy to either 1) suit himself or 2) ironically, see how Ennis drives off from him meeting after meeting.  I tend toward 2.  And what a prescient scene coming before the confrontation, the dozy embrace, and Ennis driving away for what will be the last time.

Why in the world did they omit that??

 :-\ :'(

fernly:

--- Quote from: goadra ---One version of the screenplay (2004)...

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Where did you find the other version(s?) of the screenplay?
Are they available online?

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