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BBM Radio Statistics: Jan ‘07
David In Indy:
--- Quote from: sfericsf on February 01, 2007, 11:15:06 pm ---Anyone, anywhere in the world, can tune into BBM Radio on Live 365. :D
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Oh, I didn't know that. I thought they had to come to this web site and click on the "Brokeback Mountain Radio" sign.
That's really cool Eric! Thanks for explaining it to me! :D
nic:
--- Quote from: sfericsf on February 01, 2007, 11:15:06 pm ---Anyone, anywhere in the world, can tune into BBM Radio on Live 365. :D
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I was imagining it being beamed out into space & aliens picking it up :D but then I remembered it's not the old-fashioned radio. Doesn't take much to make me feel like I came out of the ark these days!
SFEnnisSF:
The Wings Remix (Manny Lehman, Tony Moran, & Warren Rigg) has just been replaced with a new dance remix called Wicked Mountain by the Midnight Cowboys, which infuses The Wings with Wicked Game. :D
Please vote "Thumbs up or "Thumbs down" when you hear it. ;)
Phillip Dampier:
--- Quote from: sfericsf on February 01, 2007, 03:37:09 pm ---1. Gustavo Santalolla – The Wings (Finbarr Massi Trance Remix)
2. Paul Van Dyk – The Other Side
3. Gustavo Santalolla – The Wings Remix (Manny Lehman, Tony Moran, & Warren Rigg)
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A -lot- of people have an immediate negative visceral reaction to the remixes and have since they came out because, for most who hated them, they are virtually committing treason and showing disrespect to the mood, flavor, and atmosphere of the film. The reviews on iTunes when these came out were among the most hostile iTunes has ever recorded (I think K-Fed's lousy album surpassed this, but maybe not). That's why I never included them, but a year out, it was probably worth the try.
Based on the comments I was reading in a lot of places in my exploration for new music, every piece had to fit like a puzzle piece. Anything that didn't fit just so was considered jarring and provoked negative ratings. And it wasn't just the more dance-type stuff. A lot of popular music or stuff that had no relationship with Wyoming "culturally" whatsoever never did well either, even when the lyrics spoke to the story very well (a Streisand song that referred to tending sheep and fit well lyric-wise bombed just because nobody could ever imagine Jack or Ennis tolerating it, much less a good part of the state of Wyoming.) The Phil Collins song lyric-wise works, but I think for most listeners it takes them back to their own lives during the era when that song was on the pop charts and doesn't really remind people of the story, atmosphere, scenery, etc., so it has bombed as well.
That's why it was so incredibly difficult and time-consuming to choose music for the station. Finding slide guitar instrumentals that evoked a real sense of rural mountain west (and not simply new age guitar strumming or something that reminds you of meaningless meanderings in a Starbucks somewhere) was very difficult. Vocals that seem to work come from two categories - adult alternative-singer/songwriter and modern/adult country. And from the latter category, indie country seems to do even better. Mainstream country music from the usual suspects didn't. Plus, I had to reject songs out of hand that would reference "she" or "her," and I often dumped songs from consideration that went off in another direction lyric-wise, from the story. A song about driving for miles and thinking about one's life and relationship works fine, until "as I crossed the Georgia line." Buh bye to that song - it doesn't work.
Usually listeners are forgiving to a point, but you can tell from the statistics that if you push them too hard, they abandon the station. The lowest rated songs often coincide with a listener dumping BBM Radio at that very point.
Tracks like that I tended to pull as quickly as possible, especially if it caused the listener to stop listening.
And some of the song suggestions I read on other forums were, with all due respect to those who suggested them, not going to work at all. An Enya song in Wyoming would probably get you arrested. :) Someone else suggested a metal piece, another looked for some hardcore indie track from a band of 19 year olds doing what so many do - lamenting the "bitch girlfriend" to quote from the lyrics. What in the world that has to do with BBM is beyond me. I guess for different people different music can remind them of the story, but for a collective audience, one has to be sure that vision would likely be shared by more than just one person.
I'm sure you're now discovering the same thing I did. It can be and is tough work because it's far more than a simple radio station with a playlist of popular songs. It's a careful compilation of feelings, thoughts, and visions of the story, the passage thru time, and the characters.
nic:
--- Quote from: Phillip on February 04, 2007, 10:52:16 am ---A -lot- of people have an immediate negative visceral reaction to the remixes and have since they came out because, for most who hated them, they are virtually committing treason and showing disrespect to the mood, flavor, and atmosphere of the film.
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I had a similar reaction to fan fiction & funny photo captions at first. But now I like them & like the remixes, although of course it's down to personal taste. I won't mind if they are taken off if that is the consensus view.
--- Quote ---Based on the comments I was reading in a lot of places in my exploration for new music, every piece had to fit like a puzzle piece. Anything that didn't fit just so was considered jarring and provoked negative ratings. And it wasn't just the more dance-type stuff. ...
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I can understand this, cos there are many songs that I personally can relate to BBM as I turn around the words, particularly the "she" to "he" but in general it does ruin the feel of the song. Take Elvis for example, as I love him so much I have been searching for a BBM-related Elvis track that sounds right but haven't yet found one and probably won't. Grrr. When I hear "Suspicious Minds" I think of BBM cos of Alma's suspicions & then Ennis's about Mexico, but overall the feel of the song just doesn't fit BBM.
--- Quote --- Someone else suggested a metal piece, another looked for some hardcore indie track from a band of 19 year olds doing what so many do - lamenting the "bitch girlfriend" to quote from the lyrics. What in the world that has to do with BBM is beyond me. I guess for different people different music can remind them of the story, but for a collective audience, one has to be sure that vision would likely be shared by more than just one person.
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As per above. I also like metal/hard rock/etc & personally relate some of my fave Marilyn Manson/Nine Inch Nails tracks about the more intense feelings & incidents of BBM yet I realise it would not be appropriate for shared listening. Sometimes a harder track can communicate the power of say, jealousy, anger, violence, lust, etc which there is plenty of in BBM. Also some darker aspects of Ennis's personality suit these types of tracks IMO.
--- Quote ---It can be and is tough work because it's far more than a simple radio station with a playlist of popular songs. It's a careful compilation of feelings, thoughts, and visions of the story, the passage thru time, and the characters.
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There are many many listeners who appreciate the hard work :-*
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