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Production Mistakes I think they Made on the Movie
Artiste:
I wonder if that means something?
--- Quote --- I think that it really is odd that a person of such pronounced religiosity as Mother Twist would not decorate with a stronger religious theme in her house, except for the one Jesus picture we see in the kitchen.
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Like many things? Abused... but not nescessary so! At my lover's house, there was only the bible, but I found it in a drawer in my own bedroom where he kept it, and he was mennonite! Rare are religious imagery in some protestant homes... or in most, according to my experiences. Protestants, let us not forget, protested against the many catholic imageries, remember?
Hugs!
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: Artiste on March 02, 2008, 08:49:15 pm ---I wonder if that means something?
Like many things? Abused... but not nescessary so! At my lover's house, there was only the bible, but I found it in a drawer in my own bedroom where he kept it, and he was mennonite! Rare are religious imagery in some protestant homes... or in most, according to my experiences. Protestants, let us not forget, protested against the many catholic imageries, remember?
Hugs!
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Religious practices change and evolve over time. On this topic of the unusual decor in the Twist home I am not speaking theoretically or historically but from my own experiences growing up in an overwhelmingly fundamentalist protestant community in a red state rural area.
Instead of stereotyping all Protestants based upon the 16th century origins of one of the Protestant denominations, you might learn more about the Twist family by looking outside a history book and instead into the current practices of people who live today and have religious practices that are similar to Mother Twist.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: brokeplex on March 02, 2008, 08:21:25 pm ---glad you noticed the tatoo girl too!
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Many Brokies have said they think the tattoo girl is too conspicuous -- especially as one of only a handful of people on the dance floor -- to be just some randomly chosen extra. In other discussions, we've tried to figure out whether Ang Lee meant to say something by casting her and, if so, what.
My favorite explanation is that she emphasizes Ennis' paranoia. Nobody is paying much attention to this unusually tattooed woman (never mind that in a real life small-town tavern, even today, she'd probably draw some glances). And if they aren't concerned about her, maybe Ennis is overreacting to his fear that people on the pavement "know" or even give a damn what he's up to. After all, nine out of 10 of them don't even know where he lives!
Other theories: 1) Like Ennis, metaphorically, she is wearing a costume or "disguise." 23) Her presence indicates it's kind of a dive bar. 3) She shows that times are a-changing, and people are becoming more accepting of differences.
Artiste:
Thanks brokeplex!
You suggest:
--- Quote --- you might learn more about the Twist family by looking outside a history book and instead into the current practices of people who live today and have religious practices that are similar to Mother Twist.
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Brokeplex, to that I am happy about your suggestion! You do NOT know that I did and still do that? I did and do!!
My past lover W. had no cross... neither did and does to-day his aunt, his mother, his brother... where I went to visit with him them nearly weekly for many years those places as they were his relatives!! He was a modern-day mennonite with a car and with his house and property on his parents farm now a city area that came to it, unfortunately!
I also went into other (dozens and dozens) mennoite homes who are old style with no electricity and with horses only - no cars... and I did and do sell and purchase or buy with them too, plus with their businesses.
Plus, my gay lovers pals are all different stylesprotestants, and I never saw any cross in any of their homes nor apartments!
I will not talk about jews, muslims, etc., as other religions and/or non-religion person(s) wherein I have been in their homes... for now - since I do not have that talent to do so like you and other here on Bettermost do, in order to relate that to the BM film!! But I wish I could and would!!
May I assure you that my past lover W., that his mother is Mrs. Twist!! So is his aunt Gladys! Where the decorations are very similar to that of the BM film, but no cross!! Most decorations are very old or antique (as I view them to-day since I am also an antique collector and dealer with 50 years experience)!
And you do NOT know that many of my items are in numerous movies, two that I know are in the Chicago movie!!
The impact of decoration, did the director know of that cross? Was there a cross as suggested on this thread? Since that director is from another culture with NO cross likely, maybe he is saying something with one cross in the Mrs. Twist home? Maybe Mrs. was NOT just a protesttant, as she could have married INTO a protestant culture and HAD to live in that??
May I pose that question?
Hugs!
Artiste:
--- Quote --- that she is accepted in the community although she is different because people KNOW her and that mitigates the stigma of being different??
I have found that if you get to know someone it is a little harder to hate them. (although there are always exceptions to the rule. )
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Like ineedcrayons, injest said beautifully!
Some tatoos I now accept and NEVER used to do so!! I told my past lover that a 3rd tatoo, would mean that he would NOT be my lover-partner/pal anymore!! I was shocked at his first tatoo on his arm!
So, we change... and we accept to a certain degree... and we change our minds on other things which can educate us!!
But why that issue in the BM movie: for sex and violence?? It projects that Jack maybe will be murdered or die?
Hugs!
Hugs!
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