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Least Favorite Character in BBM
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on June 09, 2008, 10:36:00 am ---One thing that troubles me about that scene is that the minister is an older man, 50- or 60-something; so unless he entered the ministry late in life, he's performed a lot of marriages over the years. And has seen his share of marrying couples where one or both of them were clearly unhappy. For anyone who performs marriages regularly, that must be something that chills the blood.
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Interesting point, Marge! I hadn't thought about that before. His stupid-sounding line may be him trying to leaven what seemed an awkward or uncomfortable situation.
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on June 09, 2008, 10:47:41 am ---And Randall appears to be stuck in a marriage at least as bleak as Jack's, with a wife who clearly thinks she's married beneath her. While his wife's chatter sounds silly and innocuous on the surface, there are snide little put-downs scattered throughout, such as "like it or not, here I am!" (when someone says "like it or not" about their own situation; it's a bet that not is what they're thinking of). She makes a point of Randall not knowing what to do when the car breaks down and when she tells Lureen about how much money she spent on clothes while working for Neiman-Marcus, she mentions that she spent "more than Randall ever will make."
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I agree. LaShawn puts down Randall numerous times, and they're all vaguely veiled attacks on his masculinity. He can't fix a truck, he's not a good breadwinner and he doesn't "have a smidgen of rhythm," in a context where rhythm/dancing has already been established as a euphemism for sex.
You know, I like LaShawn and I never thought about this before, but it might have been interesting to see a different kind of character in that part. What if Randall reacted that same way to Jack -- even though he had a wife who was attractive and appealing?
mariez:
--- Quote from: Marge_Innavera on June 09, 2008, 10:36:00 am ---On some viewings, my reaction has been 'how dense!' and in others, 'whether anyone else in the church noticed anything amiss or not, he's trying to convince himself that this isn't one of those sad weddings by lightening things up a bit.'
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Yep, lightening things up is exactly how I've always viewed this - thanks for articulating that so well. And it seems to work doesn't it? We get that little almost-laugh out of Ennis, which always squeezes my heart.
Marie
Brown Eyes:
Marge and K, the observations about LaShawn are definitely really interesting. There are certainly interesting social hierarchies at play in the dinner-dance conversation. I think you're right that LaShawn's discussion is peppered with little put-downs toward Randall. She may think she's being light-hearted and witty... but those little put downs probably sting for Randall... especially because she probably talks that way frequently to many folks.
As far as Jack is concerned... I always find it fascinating that he's the only one of the four who didn't attend college. I'm sure all the discussions of sororities and college majors, etc. are an irritant to him too.
Monika:
I voted for John Twist. Ennis´s dad is probably worse, but we never get to see him so somehow he still doesn´t provoke the same feeling of anger as JT does.
If the guys that killed Jack had been on the list I would have voted differently...every time I see that scene I want to do something....violently... :-\
Another scene I can hardly watch is the scene with Randall. I know that logically I shouldn´t...but I do. Maybe because of the same reason some people find Cassie annoying. But everytime I see that scene I feel like throwing up - it is something about Randall that feels just so...tacky and everything else that Jack/Ennis is not I guess.
I guess sometimes one´s feelings can´t be explained with logic ::)
loneleeb3:
--- Quote from: buffymon on June 12, 2008, 03:47:32 pm ---
I guess sometimes one´s feelings can´t be explained with logic ::)
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Ain't that the truth! ;)
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