Author Topic: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'  (Read 5184 times)

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Surprisingly enough this is from a Utah paper....

OK, we get it. Conservatives think Larry H. Miller made the right choice when he pulled "Brokeback Mountain," liberals don't.

I saw both "Hostel" and "Brokeback Mountain," and people walked out of "Hostel," not "Brokeback Mountain," looking disgusted and sickened. The biggest question in my mind is how Miller justifies removing a film with fewer than five minutes of tastefully approached gay sex and not removing a movie with at least half an hour of GRAPHIC lesbian sex.

Trevor Burnett ("Miller made a personal decision-stop judging him," April 17) seems confused about a few things. First, the objectification of women perpetuated by the porn industry represents a "safe" form of misogyny. I saw more pornography in "Hostel" than anything I have ever seen in a theater.

Why is it that society is perfectly fine with watching two women have sex, but the mere thought of a sexual relationship between two men sparks enough controversy to fuel six months' worth of letters to the editor in a college newspaper?

Second, there were not "plenty of theaters" at which to see "Brokeback Mountain." The reason this made national news is that Miller's theater was the only stadium-seating theater in Utah that planned on showing the movie. Those of us who really wanted to see the movie found ourselves sardined into small, artsy theatres with inadequate seating.

Incidentally, the movie has been out of stock at my Blockbuster every time I've been there in the past month.

Personally, I don't believe that Miller saw either movie. I like to think that if he had seen the piece of garbage he decided to show in lieu of a tragic love story, he might have thought twice. I also think that if he is going to cater to the upstanding, moral population he seems to favor, he would probably be wise to refrain from showing any R-rated movies.



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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 11:49:11 am »
The reason is clear -- like it or not, as Americans we're very comfortable with images of graphic violence and fake sex.  Hostel, a wild and effectively grisly thriller (if you're into that sort of thing) firmly positions its violence and raunchiness squarely through the eyes of a few aggressive, (intentionally) obnoxious college yanks abroad.  By seeing this fantasy sex through the eyes of young straight guys, it's not real, it's a hyped-up extrapolation on the femme fatale, in this case, a luscious and willing babe who will f*** you whenever you please, but might also kill you before morning.  Classic take on horny men blindsided by too-smart, predatory, opportunistic women.  And the women, particularly Barbara Nedeljakova, are fabulous.  The peek-a-boo sex here is not real and has no emotional connotations or complications, and this makes it palatable to its horny fan-boy target audience.  However, I will defend the violence because this is Grand Guignol of a high order, Roth knows what horror films can and should do and Hostel's extreme cruelty is inspired and dark as pitch.  When the film's grueling third act arrives, the torture chamber antics are very, very real, and far away from any sort of "boo" thriller that trots out manufactured chases, red herrings and tension relieving laughs.  It's horror, folks, the real deal.
 
Brokeback Mountain, by contrast, deals in the stock and trade of real, adult feelings--the stuff which invites discomfort here in good old America, particularly from two masculine guys feeling those things together, without the benefit of hijinks, come hither chicks or blood, all diffusers that Hostel employs beautifully.  There are no such filters in Brokeback Mountain, just feelings. 

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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 11:50:13 am »
Wow, thanks for posting this Chris. It's true though, the nature of Hostel is far more graphic than anything shown in BBM. The tought of actual *love* between two men must really disgust Miller.
Irritates me a lot.. some f - ing people..


PS - Well said, rt hun.

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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 02:13:02 pm »
Oy, I've tried three times to construct my reply.  I don't know what to say.  People are scared shitless of stuff they don't understand, stuff that challenges their ideas of who they are and who they can be.  (I'm talking about male homophobia -- lesbian sex is another issue.)  Unless they have the education and imagination to deal with new ideas thoughtfully.

Remember, folks: average human IQ = 100.

Without education, we're screwed.

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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 08:36:50 pm »
Well said rtHostel was a stupid thriller slasher fantasy - their core audience is obviously young men, so they throw in that ultimate titillator - 'lesbian' sex.

Cut to Brokeback - drama about real lives and adult feelings.  Straight men squirm about it.  It' s TOO real for comfort.

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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2006, 01:35:54 am »
Thanks Del, BUMP.

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Re: ARTICLE: Why was homosexual sex OK in 'Hostel,' but not 'Brokeback?'
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2006, 05:34:15 pm »
Saw the movie with my husband since it was discussed here.

I have to say that I really regretted that I saw it.  When Paxton got in the torture chamber (my disgust has been building up before that, but definitely reached a breaking point there), we stopped and debated whether we should continue.  After checked the scene selection, I saw there is no visible marks on his face and body, we decided to continue, which I later regretted.

Anyway, I don’t see why people even compare this movie with BBM on the topic of homosexuality at all.  This is a gruesome movie that I wish I have never seen. We agreed that we have to watch BBM again to get that sickness feeling out of our system. :D